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 Post subject: Northwich Victoria left 'homeless' by ground sale
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:19 am 
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A Cheshire football club has been left "homeless" after their stadium was sold to an unknown buyer.

Northwich Victoria was issued with a notice to vacate their Victoria Stadium on Monday after the ground was sold by receivers to an unnamed purchaser.

The club has until 17:00 GMT on Thursday to leave the ground, which has been its home since 2005.

Club secretary David Thomas said the sale had left the club in a "very precarious" position.

The identity of the stadium's buyer is unknown and there was no indication as to what would happen to the stadium after the sale was completed.

The club's board had been trying to buy back the stadium from receivers Deloitte under the name Northwich Victoria Developments (NVD).

A spokesman for the receivers said it was "with some regret that we have come to this stage and it is clearly a time of great concern for the supporters of a club with a long history".

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We play Saturday's away fixture, but after that, we're looking desperately to find ourselves a ground”
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"However, after providing NVD with several years to find the required funding to acquire the stadium, this has not been forthcoming and so the principal chargeholder and their agents have been left with no option but to consider alternative offers for the site," he said.

Mr Thomas said that Northwich Victoria's chairman Jim Rushe was seeking legal advice on the club's position.

He said once the deadline had passed, the club would be "homeless".

"We play Saturday's away fixture, but after that, we're looking desperately to find ourselves a ground," he said.

Northwich, formed in 1874, play in the Northern Premier League.

The team were one of the founder members of the Football League's second division in 1892 and won the FA Trophy in 1984.

The club sold their original ground, the Drill Field, in 2002 and, following three seasons ground-sharing with local rivals Witton Albion, moved to the Victoria Stadium in 2005.

On Monday, the club's manager Andy Preece resigned to join Welsh Premier League side Airbus UK.

His assistants Andy Morrison and Darren Ryan also left the club.


Currently 2nd in the league, 3pts off top.

They're gonna have to play on a school field. :ohohoh:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:24 am 
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NORTHWICH Victoria’s home ground has been bought by a company based on the same street.

David Hewitt, managing director of Thor Specialities UK, contacted the Guardian this afternoon to confirm that the firm had agreed a deal to buy the Victoria Stadium.

He could have the keys before the end of the month.

“We are the purchasers of the ground,” he said.

Mr Hewitt added that he did not wish to comment further until the company, part of chemicals manufacturer Thor Group Ltd, had issued a full statement tomorrow, Thursday.

The Guardian understands that workers at the Wincham site were told earlier today that rumours in the town about the deal were true.

Last night a spokesman for finance experts Deloitte Touche, de facto landlords at the nine-acres site since October 2008, said they had instructed bailiffs to repossess the land.

An eviction notice served on Monday asked the club, whose team has played at the stadium since 2005, to vacate the premises before the weekend.

“We’ve waited several years for Vics to come up with the money,” said Deloitte’s Dan Butters last night.

“It’s not happened, so we’ve been left with no option but to consider other offers.”

Fans of the football club said today that they needed to know more before deciding how best they can help.

Northwich Victoria Supporters’ Trust chairman Paul Stockton said: “It’s important that we find out as much information as we can so we’re better placed to act.”

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Breaking news

Thor outline why they have bought Northwich Victoria's home ground


THE prospective new owners of Northwich Victoria's home patch have released the following statement today, Thursday:

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FOLLOWING the announcement from Deloitte detailing that the Victoria Stadium has been sold to an unnamed buyer, we wish to advise that the buyer is Thor Specialities (UK) Limited.

Thor is a privately-owned British speciality chemical business which operates from the site that is immediately next door to the Victoria Stadium.

It was our intention to confirm this purchase publicly at the end of this month, or early next month, upon completion of the contract but following the speculation and uncertainty that has arisen we deemed it appropriate to confirm the situation.

Thor has been in Wincham since 2002 and, despite the global economic climate, has continued to invest in its business and infrastructure.

As a result, it has gone through a considerable expansion programme which in turn has meant the need for further capacity and distribution facilities.

The purchase of the adjoining site means that we will be able to continue to invest in these areas, resulting in both long-term security of employment for our current workforce but also the creation of new employment opportunities within the area.

As it has been already stated by Deloitte, the football club has been given numerous opportunities over the past two and a half years to purchase the stadium, but for reasons unknown to Thor this has never materialised.

It was only when we became aware that Northwich Victoria had made an agreement to ground share for the current season with their neighbours Witton Albion that we approached the receivers with respect to the future plans for the site.

In July 2011 we reached a verbal understanding with them but, before this could lead to any firm agreement, we were advised by the that negotiations had once again been initiated by the football club.

The receiver stated that they would prefer a sale to the football club and that they wished to pursue a final round of negotiations with them before making any decision on further talks with Thor.

These talks again failed to materialise with the purchase of the stadium and as a result the receivers then elected to re-commence negotiations with Thor.

We are extremely sympathetic to the plight of the football club and do recognise its contribution to the local community as one of the oldest football clubs in England.

While we will not be in a position to allow the club to continue to operate from the stadium, we are willing to sit down and discuss ways in which we could provide some assistance to the club going forward.

We would like to assure the club that once we can establish what format and structure they will have going forward then we will be more than happy to sit down and meet with the appropriate people.

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So they're going to knock it down and turn it into a distribution centre which will create jobs.

Why did they build that stadium before they got promoted?

Football isn't a case of if you build it they will come they will only come if the team is doing well get the players in to get up the league then build the stadium.


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It'll be interesting to see what help Thor have in mind for the club... surely it'd be prohibitively expensive to build them a similar stadium somewhere near by? Though I got a horrible feeling that this 'help' might be something like a measly £500 to pay for the first few weeks school field pitch rental and it'll be no real help at all. Would love to be wrong though, and for them to arrange an alternative place for NV to play, though without the stands there'll be no income at all only the player subs.

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It'll be interesting to see what help Thor have in mind for the club... surely it'd be prohibitively expensive to build them a similar stadium somewhere near by? Though I got a horrible feeling that this 'help' might be something like a measly £500 to pay for the first few weeks school field pitch rental and it'll be no real help at all. Would love to be wrong though, and for them to arrange an alternative place for NV to play, though without the stands there'll be no income at all only the player subs.


They're already ground sharing with Witton Albion so I guess Thor might offer to pay their ground fees for the rest of the season as Witton will be charging Northwich to rent their facility.

That will at least mean Northwich keep their matchday revenues at their new ground.

It's a sad reality for a lot of clubs who invested in new stadiums selling their previous locations (normally more central to the town) to developers and building grounds that look like retail parks as the new stadiums are only sustainable if you fill them and the reality is you can't.

People now don't have fierce loyalty to the local team and without that loyalty you can't justify spending £10-15 a game on watching what is a pretty poor standard of football. The local team where I grew up was Northampton I'd go occasionally and my mate is a season ticket holder when I go it costs me £20 now I can go and watch the local town team for £2 and I swear the actual quality of football is better.


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I can't believe it's going, it's a really nice ground.. been there 3/4 times over last few years.

It's very similar to Curzon Ashton's ground, but a little bit bigger. One big terrace on the side, two pretty small ones behind each goal and the main stand which is seated/players tunnel etc.. There's also an excellent club house underneath the main stand that it's self would've costed a bomb.

Football clubs are treated like sh*t these days.

Chorley and Bradford in the same league are also in a spot of financial trouble too.

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I think the difference is football clubs are being treated like any other business these days if you don't pay your bills banks aren't going to bend over backwards to help you out. One of the reasons they are treated like businesses is they started acting like one by borrowing money to invest in infastructure. The plan to pay the money back will of been based on projected figures and it seems like a number of clubs made a right mess of these figures.

Re-possession is always the last resort as money made off the sale of the land/property in most cases will never be worth more than the total value of the loan should it have been paid back especially in the current climates.

It's a sorry state but I think a lot of clubs will end up ground sharing it's probably the only way Darlington can survive just need to find someone to take them.


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I think the difference is football clubs are being treated like any other business these days if you don't pay your bills banks aren't going to bend over backwards to help you out. One of the reasons they are treated like businesses is they started acting like one by borrowing money to invest in infastructure. The plan to pay the money back will of been based on projected figures and it seems like a number of clubs made a right mess of these figures.

Re-possession is always the last resort as money made off the sale of the land/property in most cases will never be worth more than the total value of the loan should it have been paid back especially in the current climates.

It's a sorry state but I think a lot of clubs will end up ground sharing it's probably the only way Darlington can survive just need to find someone to take them.


Good point. When Middlesbrough F.C. nearly went bust in 1986, they owed 'just' £350,000, whereas these days we're probably talking tens of millions of pounds at your average club... not so easy for a bank to forgive. Also, I think the banks were a little surprised that when it came time to call the money in they discovered that football clubs didn't play fair, and they got sod all while football creditors took the nearly all or all of the available money when money was in short supply. It's no wonder they now get treated differently, a few hundred grand is just good PR for the bank, but at current rates it's just too much cash to write off.

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2nd placed Northwich have been kicked out of the playoffs. :|

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NORTHWICH VICTORIA

Following a hearing on Friday 13th April 2012 Northwich Victoria Football Club have been found guilty of failing to comply with League Rules 2.9.2, 2.9.3 and 14 b 4 relating to financial matters.

The membership of the Northern Premier League has been terminated with effect from the end of the current playing season and the club will not be allowed to participate in this seasons promotion play-offs.


http://evostikleague.pitchero.com/north ... ment-8647/

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I imagine FC United are devastated :p

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Well from that point of view it helps, but the last two games FCUM have played were as bad as I've seen.

It's going to be interesting how they sort out these playoff positions now.

Everyone could move up a position in the league, or of NVFC stay in until the end of the season, the te they'd be due to play in the playoffs could just get a bye to the final.

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nah surely the 6th place team get involved.... you can't just give a free pass to the final for someone

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Forgot to post an update, Northwich have appealed against the above decision, and it'll be confirmed on the 24th April if their appeal is successful or not.

If it gets turned down there'll be no bye, and 6th place will be accepted as a playoff position.. and if it's successful things will be as normal.

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Similar to Rangers a few weeks ago the Northwich fans organised a protest at Gigg Lane today against their chairman/owner.. by holding up red cards during the 18th and 74th minutes (year founded).. even the FC fans were given cards to get the message across as well, which they obliged.

The bloke who it was aimed at joined in with the card waving from the director's area. :doh:

Sounds like a right clown, but I found it amusing at the same time that he had the audacity/stupidity to do it.

FC won 4-1. As things stand the playoffs will be Chorley v FC & Bradford PA v Hednesford..

If their appeal is successful it'll be Northwich v Hednesford & Chorley v BPA.

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At the FA hearings held at Wembley today the decision of the panel was as follows:

In respect of Northwich Victoria FC, the panel ruled that the Club would not be allowed to participate in the promotion play-offs, however the Club would not be expelled from the Northern Premier League but relegated one step from the 2012/2013 Season.

http://evostikleague.pitchero.com/state ... orts-8815/

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