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 Post subject: Re: Frankie Boyle leaves Mock The Week
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:00 pm 
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There are two things to do if you don't like what Frankie Boyle or any other comedian says

1) Get up and leave
2) Turn off whatever it is you're listening to them on TV or Radio.

I do think what he said was harsh but it's a joke at the end of the day if you don't think it's funny don't laugh.

She is a credit to the nation competing and bringing home 2 gold medals is a fantastic achievement. Being a panel guest on a quiz show isn't even close to being on the same level and most people realise that.


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 Post subject: Re: Frankie Boyle leaves Mock The Week
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:09 pm 
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I think you are deliberately missing the point.

If you do something that specifically uses your image in return for money, you are putting that image in the public arena, and just like anything in the public arena, comedians should be Ok to make jokes about it.


I think you're deliberately overlooking the point by stating your 'rule' as though it were a fact

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The trust's Editorial Standards Committee also concluded that double gold medallist Adlington had not courted publicity or celebrity status, making the personal remarks unjustified.


perhaps you could contact them and inform them they're wrong due to 'The Auto98 Rule'


The editorial standards committee is not any form of legal opinion, it is a board saying whether "the company" (BBC) feels that it was incorrect. Much like the press complaints commission, it is a pointless, toothless non-entity.

I also have to wonder about whether they knew about the advert, because the courts have been quite clear that doing them DOES mean that you are a public figure - see numerous invasion of privacy cases.

Also, saying "she looks like...spoon" isn't even particular nasty or bad


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 Post subject: Re: Frankie Boyle leaves Mock The Week
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:12 pm 
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auto98 wrote:
Resurrection Joe wrote:
auto98 wrote:
I think you are deliberately missing the point.

If you do something that specifically uses your image in return for money, you are putting that image in the public arena, and just like anything in the public arena, comedians should be Ok to make jokes about it.


I think you're deliberately overlooking the point by stating your 'rule' as though it were a fact

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The trust's Editorial Standards Committee also concluded that double gold medallist Adlington had not courted publicity or celebrity status, making the personal remarks unjustified.


perhaps you could contact them and inform them they're wrong due to 'The Auto98 Rule'


The editorial standards committee is not any form of legal opinion, it is a board saying whether "the company" (BBC) feels that it was incorrect. Much like the press complaints commission, it is a pointless, toothless non-entity.

I also have to wonder about whether they knew about the advert, because the courts have been quite clear that doing them DOES mean that you are a public figure - see numerous invasion of privacy cases.

Also, saying "she looks like...spoon" isn't even particular nasty or bad

I actually think the main offence came at the "dirty" comment, rather than the "spoon" comment. Which in all honesty is only what most people think (or at least I do) when they see an attractive person and a NOT SO attractive person in a relationship together. Actually it starts with money then heads to how dirty.

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 Post subject: Re: Frankie Boyle leaves Mock The Week
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:30 pm 
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the nut's named eric wrote:
auto98 wrote:
Resurrection Joe wrote:
auto98 wrote:
I think you are deliberately missing the point.

If you do something that specifically uses your image in return for money, you are putting that image in the public arena, and just like anything in the public arena, comedians should be Ok to make jokes about it.


I think you're deliberately overlooking the point by stating your 'rule' as though it were a fact

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The trust's Editorial Standards Committee also concluded that double gold medallist Adlington had not courted publicity or celebrity status, making the personal remarks unjustified.


perhaps you could contact them and inform them they're wrong due to 'The Auto98 Rule'


The editorial standards committee is not any form of legal opinion, it is a board saying whether "the company" (BBC) feels that it was incorrect. Much like the press complaints commission, it is a pointless, toothless non-entity.

I also have to wonder about whether they knew about the advert, because the courts have been quite clear that doing them DOES mean that you are a public figure - see numerous invasion of privacy cases.

Also, saying "she looks like...spoon" isn't even particular nasty or bad

I actually think the main offence came at the "dirty" comment, rather than the "spoon" comment. Which in all honesty is only what most people think (or at least I do) when they see an attractive person and a NOT SO attractive person in a relationship together. Actually it starts with money then heads to how dirty.


What attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels :D


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 Post subject: Frankie Boyle: BBC are cowards
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:19 am 
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Frankie Boyle has lashed out at the BBC, branding them ‘cowardly’ and ‘cravenly afraid of giving offence’ after censuring one of his jokes.

In an angry open letter, the comedian hit back at the BBC Trust for apologising for a gag he felt drew some small attention to the ‘apartheid’ in Palestine.

The corporation’s governing body yesterday issued an apology for the joke Boyle made on Radio 4’s Political Animal two years ago. A listener took their complaint that the gag was anti-Semitic – although appearing on a show hosted by the Jewish Andy Zaltzman – all the way to the top.

They ruled that the gag was a ‘serious’ breach of BBC rules and said: ‘It said: ‘As a result, the committee wished to apologise to the complainant on behalf of the BBC for any offence the remark may have caused him and other listeners to the programme.’

However, Boyle says the Palestinian situation is a suitable topic for satire and defended the joke.

Here is the full text of his response:

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Obviously, it feels strange to be on the moral high ground but I feel a response is required to the BBC Trust’s cowardly rebuke of my jokes about Palestine.

As always, I heard nothing from the BBC but read in a newspaper that editorial procedures would be tightened further to stop jokes with anything at all to say getting past the censors.

In case you missed it, the jokes in question are: ‘I’ve been studying Israeli Army Martial Arts. I now know 16 ways to kick a Palestinian woman in the back. People think that the Middle East is very complex but I have an analogy that sums it up quite well. If you imagine that Palestine is a big cake, well…that cake is being punched to pieces by a very angry Jew.’

I think the problem here is that the show’s producers will have thought that Israel, an aggressive, terrorist state with a nuclear arsenal was an appropriate target for satire. The Trust’s ruling is essentially a note from their line managers. It says that if you imagine that a state busily going about the destruction of an entire people is fair game, you are mistaken. Israel is out of bounds.

The BBC refused to broadcast a humanitarian appeal in 2009 to help residents of Gaza rebuild their homes. It’s tragic for such a great institution but it is now cravenly afraid of giving offence and vulnerable to any kind of well drilled lobbying.

I told the jokes on a Radio 4 show called Political Animal. That title seems to promise provocative comedy with a point of view. In practice the BBC wish to deliver the flavour of political comedy with none of the content. The most recent offering I saw was BBC Two’s The Bubble. It looked exactly like a show where funny people sat around and did jokes about the news. Except the thrust of the format was that nobody had read the papers. I can only imagine how the head of the BBC Trust must have looked watching that, grinning like Gordon Brown having his prostrate examined.

The situation in Palestine seems to be, in essence, apartheid. I grew up with the anti apartheid thing being a huge focus of debate. It really seemed to matter to everybody that other human beings were being treated in that way. We didn’t just talk about it, we did things, I remember boycotts and marches and demos all being held because we couldn’t bear that people were being treated like that.

A few years ago I watched a documentary about life in Palestine. There’s a section where a UN dignitary of some kind comes to do a photo opportunity outside a new hospital. The staff know that it communicates nothing of the real desperation of their position, so they trick her into a side ward on her way out. She ends up in a room with a child who the doctors explain is in a critical condition because they don’t have the supplies to keep treating him. She flounders, awkwardly caught in the bleak reality of the room, mouthing platitudes over a dying boy.

The filmmaker asks one of the doctors what they think the stunt will have achieved. He is suddenly angry, perhaps having just felt at first hand something he knew in the abstract. The indifference of the world. ‘She will do nothing,’ he says to the filmmaker. Then he looks into the camera and says, ‘Neither will you’.

I cried at that and promised myself that I would do something. Other than write a few stupid jokes I have not done anything. Neither have you.

Frankie Boyle


Suddenly, my respect for this man has increased exponentially. Well said, Frankie. :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: Frankie Boyle: BBC are cowards
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:07 am 
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Same sort of thing here recently but a little more extreme I suppose:
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Satirical animated TV show "South Park" beeped out the words Prophet Muhammad and plastered its Wednesday episode with the word "CENSORED" after being issued a grim warning by a U.S. Muslim group.

The irreverent comedy show on Comedy Central also substituted a controversial image seen last week of the Prophet Muhammad in a bear outfit with one of Santa Claus in the same costume.

It was not immediately clear if the move was a bid to tread carefully following the warning against the "South Park" creators, or if they were poking fun at the fuss.

The little-known group RevolutionMuslim.com posted a message on its website earlier this week warning creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker "that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh for airing this show."

The website posted a graphic photo of Van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker who was killed in 2004 by an Islamic militant over a movie he had made that accused Islam of condoning violence against women. It also posted a link to a news article with details of a mansion in Colorado that Parker and Stone apparently own.

Most Muslims consider any depiction of the founder of Islam as offensive.

The website warning followed the first in a two-part episode of "South Park" a week ago in which Prophet Mohammad was depicted in a bear outfit.

"South Park" has a history of biting satire against politicians, celebrities and the media. The two Colorado filmmakers are known to often work on "South Park" until just before they air, enabling them to react to current events.

In Wednesday's new episode, Jesus Christ was depicted watching pornography and Buddha was portrayed snorting cocaine.

The head of Revolution Muslim, Younus Abdullah Muhammad, 30, defended the Web posting by his group.

"How is that a threat?," he told Reuters earlier on Wednesday. "Showing a case study right there of what happened to another individual who conducted himself in a very similar manner? It's just evidence."

According to U.S. law enforcement officials, the federal government rarely prosecutes threat cases. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives broad protections to free speech, and what constitutes a threat is often subject to interpretation.

Muhammad described his group as an alternative media outlet with about 20 active posters to the website. He said the group "didn't tell anyone to go to their houses and conduct violence" against Parker or Stone.

Comedy Central, a unit of Viacom Inc, has declined to comment on the controversy.
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how is that a threat? F*CK OFF the only problem with the 1st Amendment is that is protects everyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Frankie Boyle Keeps Upsetting People
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:33 pm 
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Media regulator Ofcom has censured comedian Frankie Boyle and Channel 4 for broadcasting "offensive" jokes about Katie Price and her son Harvey.

Ofcom upheld 500 complaints about Boyle's routine, broadcast in December.

It appeared to "target and mock the mental and physical disabilities" of the eight year-old, Ofcom said.

Channel 4 said it was "wholly justified in the context". Price said it was "a further insult" that Ofcom had not forced the station to apologise.

The model was among those who complained about the comments in Boyle's comedy series Tramadol Nights, saying they were "discriminatory, offensive, demeaning and humiliating".

In response Channel 4 said Boyle's comedy was not "intended as a slur on any particular community", but that "everyone is fair game in Frankie's eyes".

One of the jokes that attracted complaints was not about Harvey's disability or about rape or incest, it said, but was "simply absurdist satire".

The broadcaster also said Boyle's remarks were meant to make fun of Price's alleged "exploitation of her children for publicity purposes... her behaviour as a mother and her cavalier attitude towards relationships".

Channel 4 chief executive David Abraham personally sanctioned the jokes before they were broadcast.

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It is clear that people at the highest levels in Channel 4 made a major misjudgement”
Katie Price


But the regulator ruled that allowing the jokes to be screened was "an erroneous decision on a matter of editorial judgement on the broadcaster's part".

Ofcom accepted that Price and ex-husbands Alex Reid and Peter Andre had "consciously exposed their and their children's lives to the media" and must expect to be the targets of humour and criticism.

But it continued: "The fact that a public figure chooses to expose some aspects of his or her child's life in the media does not provide broadcasters with unlimited licence to broadcast comedy that targets humour at such a child's expense."

The ruling also said: "Ofcom was of the view that the material in question appeared to directly target and mock the mental and physical disabilities of a known eight year-old child who had not himself chosen to be in the public eye.

"As such, Ofcom found that the comments had considerable potential to be highly offensive to the audience."

Ofcom said the second episode of Boyle's comedy series, aired on 7 December, broke two rules in its broadcasting code.

Top Gear was cleared after complaints over jokes about Mexican people

A Channel 4 statement said it "acknowledges" Ofcom's findings. A spokesperson pointed out Ofcom did not fine the channel or force it to issue an on-air apology.

Price responded by saying that she was pleased that Ofcom had ruled against Channel 4 but was "amazed" the regulator did not require an apology to be broadcast.

"This strikes me as a further insult to my wonderful son and another in a series of failures in this sordid affair," she said.

Channel 4's role as the official broadcaster for the 2012 Paralympics should now be questioned, she added.

"Would they have taken this route if Harvey was the child of a well-known politician?" she continued.

"It is clear that people at the highest levels in Channel 4 made a major misjudgement and that they are not capable of seeing how wrong their behaviour was."

Ofcom cleared a further episode of Frankie Boyle's Tramadol Nights, in which he made a joke about people with mental health problems.

Meanwhile, Ofcom also cleared BBC Two's Top Gear after the hosts made fun of Mexican people for being "lazy".

The regulator said viewers would have been familiar with the show's "mocking, playground-style humour".

"To restrict humour only to material which does not cause offence would be an unnecessary restriction of freedom of expression," it added.

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 Post subject: Re: Frankie Boyle Keeps Upsetting People
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Does anyone else feel that Frankie Boyle has "Jumped the Shark"?

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Jim Jeffries told us about this joke when we were seeing his stand up as he was defending Frankie on TV in a few days. And I think everybody in the audience laughed.

At the end of the day Jordan did all she could to make sure she was in the media limelight and now she wants to be able to pick and choose when the press are in her life. They don't and never will work like that, if you want to be out of the media stop doing stupid interviews in reveal, now and whatever other magazine and keep yourself covered up when you go out. Don't go round giving lap dances in the middle of clubs and trying to sell photos of ya wedding day it doesn't help keep them off ya back

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Not sure its fair to say "Stay out of the limelight or we can make jokes about your disabled child".

Frankie Boyle is crap.

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Frankie Boyle is to return to Channel 4 to host a topical talkshow.

The former Mock the Week comedian will front Frankie Boyle's Rehabilitation Programmefor the broadcaster later this year.

Channel 4's head of comedy Shane Allen told The Guardian: "It's him in a studio. It's capturing him riffing off the audience a bit, with some people challenging what he says.

"We are just working out how we can best capture that. If Frankie has an opinion about a story, we'd have someone on who maybe had a connection to the story or was an expert."

Boyle will film a pilot of the show in October. If a full series is commissioned, each episode will be shot the night before transmission, which Allen claims will allow Channel 4 to "cut out all the horrific bits".

"It's very much like Parkinson or Wogan, but with paedo jokes," Allen joked.

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