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Trainer Freddie Roach has put Floyd Mayweather Jr firmly in his sights as the next opponent for his victorious charge Manny Pacquiao.

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) cemented his claim to be the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet when he stopped WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto in the 12th and final round of their Las Vegas showdown at the MGM Grand Garden Arena last night.

And having blown away box office blockbuster opponents Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton and now Cotto in consecutive fights over the last 12 months, the stage has been set for a fight to top them all against the undefeated Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs).

The brash American returned to the ring from a short-lived retirement following his December 2007 victory over Britain's Hatton with a clinical unanimous decision win over Mexico's Juan Manuel Marquez.

Yet Mayweather's prior inactivity cost him his pound-for-pound top ranking status and all the talk has been of a megafight with the Filipino to settle the issue.

Publicly the former welterweight champion has said he would only fight Pacquiao if he got the lion's share of any purse while Pacquaio was reticent to talk about his plans for future fights in the immediate aftermath of his victory over Puerto Rico's Cotto.

"My job is to fight in the ring and I think that depends on (Top Rank's Bob) Arum my promoter to negotiate that fight," Pacquiao said.

"I'm just going to take a vacation first and spend time with my family and have fun."

Yet there was no stopping Pacquiao's trainer from picking out an opponent for his southpaw star.

"The whole world wants to see him fight Mayweather and I want Mayweather," Roach said.

Hall of fame trainer Emanuel Steward was at ringside for Pacquiao-Cotto as a summariser for US broadcaster HBO and like Roach, there was only one logical next step for the 30-year-old Filipino.

"There's no doubt you have to go with Mayweather," Steward said on air.

"When you have a fight that's been made by the public more than the fighters, that's what happened with Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard. The public said we want that fight to happen and that's why it happened.

"I think they'll come together on the money but it's going to be a very intriguing fight because Floyd's a technical fighter. He knows how to wait back and box a little bit and it's going to be a lot different than it was against a guy who comes forward and is not that great on his defence.

"But I think it will happen, it's just a case of when and who gets what in terms of money. I think it should be a 50-50. Manny has earned his position as an attraction and to me not just as pound for pound but as one of the all-time greats. I'd put him up there with the Ray Robinsons and Alis."

Having gone down to a second defeat in 16 months, 29-year-old Cotto (34-2, 27 KOs) insisted he still had a future in the ring.

"I will continue fighting," Cotto insisted.

Former Cotto victim Shane Mosley is another potential opponent for Pacquiao although he would first have to get past WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto, their fight having been set for January 30 in Las Vegas and officially launched before Cotto-Pacquiao on Saturday.

"Andre Berto's a good young fighter but he's bitten off more than he can chew with all the talking he's been doing," said WBA welterweight title holder Mosley.

"I've forgotten more about the fight game than he knows and the world will see that in January."

Berto said: "This is the fight I've waited my whole career for and now it's finally a reality.

"Shane Mosley made me chase him for a while, but he won't be able to run when we get into the ring on January 30, and I can't wait."

Pacquaio started out his professional career at 107 pounds but suggested he would not be going any further up through the weights.

"For me I think this is the last weight division I'm going to fight in and I think my trainer will be happy to hear that because 154 is too big for me and 147 is my regular weight," he said.

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 Post subject: Re: Mayweather Reluctant To Fight Mosley
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Pacquiao... what a legend. Completely outclassed Cotto throughout the 12 rounds, but credit for Cotto for not giving up and fighting until the end.

Mayweather Vs Pacquiao please :buzzin:

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 Post subject: Re: Mayweather Reluctant To Fight Mosley
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The Manny Pacquiao camp have raised the stakes with Floyd Mayweather Jr by insisting he is scared the Filipino would ruin his unbeaten record if the two meet in a pound-for-pound battle the boxing world is crying out for.

Pacquiao increased his claims to be the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet with his 12-round demolition of Miguel Cotto landing him the WBO welterweight title in Las Vegas.

Mayweather returned to the ring with an impressive win over Juan Manuel Marquez in September and now the fight everyone wants to see is a battle between him and Pacquiao.

The 32-year-old American was undoubtedly the pound-for-pound king before his retirement but Pacquiao's continued success as he rises up the weights now has him firmly in the argument with opinion now split on who is the better fighter.

Mayweather insisted he was the better man earlier this week, and he said Pacquiao was afraid to face him.

However, the Filipino's trainer Freddie Roach believes his man will win any meeting between the two, whilst promoter Bob Arum says Mayweather is scared of losing his 40-fight unbeaten record.


"You have to understand Mayweather's psyche. Psychologically he may not be prepared to do this fight," said Arum.

"Now this is me being an amateur psychologist, but Mayweather is so tied up with the fact that nobody has beaten him, that he has a zero on his record, I don't know if he would be willing to go into the ring with anybody that could jeopardise that zero.

"He is afraid, terrified of losing that zero.

"That's why he's ducked (Shane) Mosely, (Antonio) Margarito and Cotto, and the question is will he duck Manny Pacquiao because he's so afraid of losing that zero."

Arum's goading is aimed at getting Mayweather into the ring, and American TV executives believe a super fight at welterweight next May is on the cards.

Pacquiao himself enjoyed his now customary hero's welcome as he arrived back at Manila airport, and he told Mayweather that he should be the one challenging for a fight.

"We are not pushing the fight. He should be the first to challenge me, after all I got a higher pay-per-view from my fight," Pacquiao told the waiting media.

Regardless of who challenges who, the fight must surely go ahead with the expected huge revenue if nothing else forcing the two men to get into the ring together.

"It's not so much that I give a damn whether this fight happens - I don't - and for me it's not the greatest experience doing a promotion with Floyd Mayweather," Arum added.

"But boxing is on such a roll now, not to do this fight would slow down considerably the momentum that boxing has, and that would be wrong."

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 Post subject: Re: Mayweather Reluctant To Fight Pacquiao
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PROMOTER Bob Arum claims Floyd Mayweather Jnr is running scared of Manny Pacquiao.

Pacquiao and Mayweather are expected to collide next year in what promises to be one of the biggest fights in the history of the sweet science.

But Team Pacquiao fear Money may not be willing to put his undefeated record on the line against the man regarded as the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet.


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Arum said: "You have to understand Mayweather's psyche. Psychologically he may not be prepared to do this fight.

"Now this is me being an amateur psychologist but Mayweather is so tied up with the fact that nobody has beaten him — that he has a zero on his record.

"I don't know if he would be willing to go into the ring with anybody that could jeopardise that zero.

"He is afraid, terrified of losing that zero.

"That's why he's ducked Shane Mosely, Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto.

"And the question is will he duck Manny because he's so afraid of losing that zero?"

Mayweather, 32, still believes he is the world's greatest boxer and is confident he will put Pacquiao in his place.

But Pac-Man insists he will not chase a showdown with the arrogant American.

The Filipino said: "We are not pushing the fight — he should be the first to challenge me."

Arum shares Pacquiao's view that the new WBO welterweight champion can do without Mayweather.

But he is determined to give boxing fans the fight they so desperately want to see.

Arum added: "It's not so much that I give a damn whether this fight happens, because I don't, and for me it's not the greatest experience doing a promotion with Mayweather.

"But boxing is on such a roll now, not to do this fight would slow down considerably the momentum the sport has — and that would be wrong."

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 Post subject: Re: Mayweather Reluctant To Fight Pacquiao
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Mayweather has spent his entire career ducking fights againist guys in their prime. I think he's got great hand speed and is a good boxer but I think he is wildly over rated. If you look at his career there are some impressive names on it but almost of them he caught on their way down.


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Mayweather has spent his entire career ducking fights againist guys in their prime. I think he's got great hand speed and is a good boxer but I think he is wildly over rated. If you look at his career there are some impressive names on it but almost of them he caught on their way down.


Agreed - I think the key point if Pacquiao fought Mayweather would be the weight at which they fought. It would only be Pacquiao's second fight at welterweight and Floyd would prove to be a tough opponent. Anything lower and I think Manny would beat him hands down.

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Pacquiao-Mayweather bout closer

The proposed super fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather is getting closer.

Mayweather agreed to terms for the welterweight title bout on Tuesday, multiple sources with knowledge of the negotiations told ESPN.com.

The proposed date is March 13, although there is a chance it could move to May 1, sources said. Mayweather, according to a source close to him, is OK with either date.

Pacquiao and Mayweather have fought recent bouts at catch weights. However if they complete their deal, the bout would be contested at 147 pounds, the maximum for a welterweight fight, a source said.

Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs), was flying to the Philippines on Tuesday night to meet with Pacquiao and try to close his side of the deal.

Arum spent much of Tuesday getting open issues resolved in his negotiations with Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who represents Mayweather, sources said. Once Arum was able to do that, he left for the Philippines and is expected back on Monday.

If the HBO PPV fight happens on March 13, it would force the tentative HBO PPV fight between light heavyweights Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins to move to another date. Hopkins and Jones both fight Wednesday and must win for their fight to go through.

The site for Pacquiao-Mayweather remains up in the air. There is interest from Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to bring the fight to his new stadium. There is also interest from venues in Las Vegas, including the MGM Grand (which has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather fights), and the Superdome in New Orleans in hosting a fight many believe will break the all-time record for pay-per-view buys, which is the 2.44 million units sold for Mayweather's 2007 split decision victory against Oscar De La Hoya.

The fight moved front and center with heavy public demand for it following Pacquiao's dominant 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto to win a welterweight title on Nov. 14. The victory gave Pacquiao a title in a record-breaking seventh weight division and 1.25 million pay-per-view units.

Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs), who has won titles in five divisions, came out of a brief retirement in September to dominate Juan Manuel Marquez in a fight that generated 1.05 million buys.

Just a few days after Pacquiao's win over Cotto, Arum and Schaefer began negotiations.

One wrench in the talks was the date. Arum, Schaefer and HBO wanted to slot the fight on May 1. However, Pacquiao announced his candidacy for a congressional seat in the Philippines on Tuesday. With the election scheduled for May 10, it rules out a May 1 fight unless Pacquiao runs unopposed. Pacquiao lost the election for a congressional seat in 2007.

If Pacquiao-Mayweather isn't finalized, Arum has talked about matching Pacquiao with junior middleweight titlist Yuri Foreman, which would give Pacquiao an opportunity to win a title in an eighth division. Foreman defeated Daniel Santos to win a 154-pound belt on the Pacquiao-Cotto undercard.

Schaefer has talked about bringing Mayweather to England to match him with Matthew Hatton in the event Pacquiao-Mayweather isn't made. Hatton is the brother of Ricky Hatton, the former junior welterweight and welterweight titlist whom Mayweather knocked out in 2007.

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.


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 Post subject: Re: Mayweather Reluctant To Fight Pacquiao
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Why would Mayweather fight Matthew Hatton? He's a journeyman boxer. Nowhere near as good as Ricky was at any point in his career. Mayweather ducking a tough fight again?

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 Post subject: Re: Mayweather Reluctant To Fight Pacquiao
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Lets just hope Pacquiao - Mayweather happens. The other fights would be no where near as appealing.

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Why would Mayweather fight Matthew Hatton? He's a journeyman boxer. Nowhere near as good as Ricky was at any point in his career. Mayweather ducking a tough fight again?



Maybe he just hates people from Manchester, i mean he destroyed Ricky when they fought. And ducking fights is how he's got so a great record, it wouldn't surprise me to see it happen again


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 Post subject: Re: Mayweather Reluctant To Fight Pacquiao
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The fight is going to happen there is to much money in it for it not too.

Maywhether will beat him anyway :thumbup:

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Fight was supposed to be on for March 13 but now it may fall through because Mayweather's camp wants Olympic style drug testing, but Freddie Roach doesn't want blood drawn from Manny within 30 days of the fight so we'll see if it gets ironed out


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Is that an accusation from Maywhether?

And why refuse?

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Is that an accusation from Maywhether?

And why refuse?


well Manny isn't ducking drug testing his camp just doesn't want it olympic style cause in theory they could draw blood within 48 hours of the fight and I could understand why you wouldn't want that


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How much blood do they draw then?

According to the bbc the reason he doesn't want to comply with the conditions is because he doesn't like having blood taken. For a multi million doller fight i figure he should deal with it. Certainly strengthens Maywhethers claims it wouldn't be an even fight because he believes Manny will be on drugs

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How much blood do they draw then?

According to the bbc the reason he doesn't want to comply with the conditions is because he doesn't like having blood taken. For a multi million doller fight i figure he should deal with it. Certainly strengthens Maywhethers claims it wouldn't be an even fight because he believes Manny will be on drugs


yeah....perfectly fine, to change the standards and normal practices, to inconvenience the Champion and libel him in the process... doesn't look/sound like you're desperate to do everything/anything to fight him to me

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How much blood do they draw then?

According to the bbc the reason he doesn't want to comply with the conditions is because he doesn't like having blood taken. For a multi million doller fight i figure he should deal with it. Certainly strengthens Maywhethers claims it wouldn't be an even fight because he believes Manny will be on drugs


yeah....perfectly fine, to change the standards and normal practices, to inconvenience the Champion and libel him in the process... doesn't look/sound like you're desperate to do everything/anything to fight him to me



That's how I feel too Joe. I've said it before on here but mayweather has made a career of ducking great fighters in there prime. This seems like a desparete attempt by him to get out of this fight and make it look like Manny's fault.


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Manny Pacquiao's super fight with Floyd Mayweather looks to be off due to the saga surrounding drug-testing demands from the American, with trainer Freddie Roach telling Sky Sports News that the 'Pretty Boy' is looking for a way out.

Mayweather wants World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) drug-testing to be introduced for the proposed March 13 fight, as opposed to the normal procedure used in Las Vegas fights.

Pacquiao's camp have balked at that request as it calls for a blood test just before the fight, and the Filipino apparently does not react well after having blood taken.

A fight that would see who is the real pound-for-pound king could be the richest in boxing history now looks to be of unless Mayweather relents on his demands, which the Pac Man camp claim is merely a way to get out of the showdown.

"I'd love to see this fight happen but we're going to go by the commission rules and not Mayweather's rules, I refuse to work for Mayweather," Pacquiao's trainer Roach told Sky Sports News.

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"It's absurd that this is the first time in the history of boxing he wants to hire his own private company to do drug testing."

Roach added that they would take the fight in an instant and agree to any drug testing but not a blood test so close to the fight - as it would unsettle his man unfairly - and Mayweather is fully aware of this.

"He's (Mayweather) looking for a back door out, I never thought he wanted to fight Manny in the first place and now he's got his way out, but if he wants to fight us we're definitely ready and we'll go by any sanctioning body rule there is.

"We have no problem with any drug testing in the world but I'm not going to have my fighter give blood a week out, that's my decision because I know how it affects him mentally when he gives blood."

Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum also claimed that the fight was off as far as he was concerned due to Mayweather's demands, which he labelled as a cheap attempt to unsettle his man.

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"We're going in a different direction," Arum told the Grand Rapids Press. "What I believe is that Floyd never really wanted the fight and this is just harassment of Pacquiao.

"Floyd, to me, is a coward and he has always been a coward. Not a physical coward, but a coward because he's afraid to face somebody who could beat him. And believe me, Manny Pacquiao could beat him.

"So he will go his way, we will go our way and that will be fine.

"We appeased Mayweather by agreeing to a urine analysis at any time and blood testing before the press conference and after the fight.

"Mayweather pressed for blood testing even up to the weigh-in. He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken and feels that it weakens him. This is just harassment and to me just signalled that he didn't want the fight."

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If he believes manny is taking drugs then he's got to protect himself. If manny has nothing to hide I really don't see a problem. I hope the fightgoes ahead I think they're both over rated.

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If he believes manny is taking drugs then he's got to protect himself. If manny has nothing to hide I really don't see a problem. I hope the fightgoes ahead I think they're both over rated.

he's protecting himself against having to take the fight, by asking for unreasonable measures & moving to an unprecedented set of rules for Vegas :hmm:

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