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Adobe kills Creative Suite – all future features online only

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By Iain Thomson • The Register



Adobe had been expected to demo Creative Suite 7 at its MAX conference down in smoky Los Angeles on Monday, but instead announced there'll be no more versions of its boxed software and that the Creative Suite brand will cease to exist. All CS apps updates will only be added to its Creative Cloud suite, and Adobe showed off some new tools to tempt its software stick-in-the-muds online.

"We believe that we're now collectively hitting a tipping point where the web is now ready for a generation of tools and services that help build the future of HTML5, CSS, and JavaScript web," said David Wadhwani, general manager of Adobe's digital media business unit, at the MAX keynote.

The current system of duplicating changes made in the Creative Suite and Creative Cloud products was wasteful and unproductive, he explained, and while existing boxed-software owners will still be supported, they won't be getting any more upgrades from Adobe.

The dropping of boxed software wasn't unexpected, as El Reg warned in March – but the speed of the shift will take some by surprise. Creative Cloud was launched barely a year ago, and while its growth has been impressive it still has only half a million paying users. The move to cloud runs the risk of alienating users who've been with the company for a long time and don't want or need a cloud service.

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To tempt them, Adobe is offering "hundreds" of improvement to its Creative Cloud applications, with more introduced on a weekly basis by the company beginning June 17. Subscribers to Creative Cloud get 20GB of free online storage, and access to applications on any internet-connected device capable of running them.

This comes at a cost of $29.99 per month for a single application or $49.99 for the full Creative Suite Creative Cloud bundle. Wadhwani said that enterprise, government, and education customers would get special deals, as will registered owners of Creative Suite 6, and that Adobe will offer a range of short-term promotions to encourage subscriptions.

Cloud-only improvements for Photoshop users include a new tool to eliminate blurring from shaky-handed camera operators, an "Intelligent Unsampling" system to turn low-res images into higher–res versions, and a claimed 100x faster response time for painting 3D objects and textures. Illustrator is getting a tweak with the addition of bitmap brushes and a Touch Type Tool, and AfterEffects users also get new goodies.

Adobe is also going to roll out new social and management tools with the Creative Cloud system. Group working, messaging, and social networking from acquisition Behance are all going to be included in the cloud package. But Wadhwani also showed off three software and hardware research project to woo publishers and gadget geeks to the cloud.

Adobe's Project Context aims to eliminate an old publishing tradition – the layout board. While magazine production is now almost totally digital, many dead-tree editorial production offices still print out pages and pin them up to build the final layout. Wadhwani showed off a Context virtual layout room so teams can do this digitally via Adobe's cloud.

Meanwhile, for mobile users Adobe is getting into the hardware business with a new wireless digital pen with the understated name Project Mighty and a layout tool dubbed Project Napoleon – so called because it's a very small ruler*. Michael Gough, Adobe's VP of product experience, said that these two devices completely eliminate the need to sketch out ideas on a piece of paper.

Project Mighty is a so-called "smart stylus" with a pressure-sensitive tip for drawing, and a button to access application menus. The device communicates with the internet via Bluetooth, and has built-in memory to remember a user's cloud settings and store the finished sketch on other devices.

To draw more accurate geometric shapes, the Adobe boffins have built Project Napoleon, a button-equipped ruler about three inches long that projects straight lines, circles, and arcs on a tablet. Details are scant, but Adobe says it has been working on the device for a year.

Whether all these the new features and special projects will be enough to win over those who prefer to have their software where they can see it (and not have to pay a monthly fee) remains to be seen. In the short term, El Reg would expect to see an uptick in CS6 boxed copies as people grab them while they can. But looking ahead, if you want the latest features from Adobe it's cloud only from now on.

"We believe that Creative Cloud will have a larger impact on the creative world than anything else we've done over the past three decades," Adobe said in a letter to customers. "It is our single highest priority to enable deep integration between our tools and services."

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Before you start, yes, we know that Napoleon was not the short-arse of common misconception – even among Adobe engineers, it seems.

The former Emperor of France was not short by the standards of his time, standing five foot seven in his stocking feet. Owing to difference in length between the English inch and now-defunct French pouce, which was a metric version of the Imperial measurement, it was thought by some that he was five inches shorter, not least by British propagandists who liked the idea of the nation's enemy as an angry runt.

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Yet another attempt to use the cloud aka an always online connection to fleece customers in the interests of DRM... that won't affect the pirates anyway remember, as the pirated versions have all that stuff removed and just works.

Did nobody learn anything from Sim City? :no:

Somebody at Adobe must be really out of touch: Hey loyal customers, don't pay us a large fee once then keep your software... oh no! Why not pay for it continually instead?! :doh:

A bargain? Not really.

As I understand it, these applications will still install and run on your hard drive as before, but they just won't work without an online connection to Adobe's servers AKA 'the cloud'. It's just DRM gone mad again, and an excuse to use buzzwords ('the cloud') to charge customers more.

Unfortunately, for the most demanding users, there is no competition for the apps Adobe has bought in, so they'll get their wallets emptied whether they want to pay monthly or not. Though if these apps are your daily tools for your job and you use it all day every day then at least there is some reason to pay monthly as you'll get your money back and potentially earn a good living making and selling commercial quality stuff.

But Adobe can't have some customers not upgrading to every new version now can they? Occasional users and users on a budget, especially students, who upgraded only every few versions suddenly see their costs rise by several hundred percent.

Competitors everywhere must be furiously working on improving their own software to soak up some of the many Adobe users looking for a way out.

Sometimes I think the whole point of 'the cloud' is to move software to a rental model... it might make sense for businesses who already pay huge amounts to upgrade regularly but it's not good for consumers at all.

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I started getting into photography last year, and I would really like to get a copy of photoshop. I considered elements but Im worried it wouldnt be able to do a lot of the stuff id want to. While I think its a bad move by adobe, heres hopibg the price of Cs6 will drop before then.

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There's some software called GIMP that I'm told is similar. Have a look at that.

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I have GIMP, but Im often told Adobe is market leader for a reason. I might just have to make do with GIMP for now.

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Yeah, it probably is, I don't know anything about that sort of software.

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Wont matter anyway crackers are way ahead!

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I started getting into photography last year, and I would really like to get a copy of photoshop. I considered elements but Im worried it wouldnt be able to do a lot of the stuff id want to. While I think its a bad move by adobe, heres hopibg the price of Cs6 will drop before then.


Unfortunately I suspect the price of CS6 will stay steady or even rise, not fall, as some businesses reliant on Adobe's tools to make their money seek to upgrade current versions to the last available boxed copy of Creative Suite (CS) in a bid to avoid the Creative Cloud (CC) version and a monthly bill. Not done a thorough search of Adobe's site, but it looks on quick inspection that they're only selling the CC versions on a pay monthly deal at £46.88 p/m, or whopping £562.56 a year. And if you stop paying, your software stops working. Seems you'll never again be able to actually own this software... it's now effectively just a very expensive rental.

If you can cope with a Photoshop-like product without it actually being Photoshop there's http://www.serif.com who sell a similar photo app called Photoplus for about £70 top of the range then falling, and there is a free version too if you want to try it out for yourself. Inkscape is a good replacement for InDesign I'm told, and that's free and open source same as GIMP is.

It just depends on what your needs are, not being a photographer myself I can't tell you what is best for you in terms of free/light/full versions.

Reading articles and comments etc. from people who work in the industry, it seems Photoshop is only really essential for those with specific needs and who are thoroughly expert with all it's advanced features. It's simply overkill for everyone else. There's a saying about it that goes 99% of users use 1% of the features, while 1% use 99% of the features or words to that effect.

GIMP is compared to a 1980s version of Photoshop, but still it's good enough for many hobbyists as it contains the most commonly used subset of Photoshop features so it may still do what you need.

Not sure piracy is the answer Pak, as this new version won't work without online DRM authentication at start up... Of course, Adobe having the interest of their customers first, their official advice to any unfortunate paying customers who's work/location means they can't get online? Go to an internet cafe! In case Adobe didn't notice, there are no internet cafes in darkest Africa/various deserts/the north pole etc. :rolleyes: I think instead it'll lead to a mass exodus of users who start to use other software instead. Many small and medium businesses never mind hobbyists will be forced move to something else anyway as it's simply too big a cost to justify for all but the largest/richest companies who desperately rely on certain high-end features. Adobe won't be the first corporation that greed killed, just the latest.

OR... hackers will take out the DRM bits and release it online to be pirated. But you can bet Adobe will move vital parts of it to run online in the next version should that happen. Oh and don't expect the CC version to be faster than the CS version - it's reportedly noticeably slower on 'in the cloud' than purely on your hard drive.

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