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Ravel Morrison has come on for Lazio

Kids obviously had problems but would be great to see him get his head in a good place and make something of his talent.


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Juve 5 points after 5 matches .. Inter on top with 15 points .. 5 straight wins ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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Inter smashed 4-1 at home by Fiorentina last night unbeaten run is over.


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Former blackburn striker Klanic with hatrick ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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Milan president Silvio Berlusconi announced last month that the club would continue to share the San Siro stadium with their city rivals Internazionale and that the plans to build a new stadium in the Portello district of the city were being scrapped due to a disagreement over the land. The club’s sponsors, Fly Emirates, were going to provide financial backing for the 48,000-seat stadium but Berlusconi assured the press that he was too in love with the San Siro to leave.

In reality, this failure to modernise is a huge blow to a club whose matchday revenue dropped by 6% in the 2014-15 season. According to the Deloitte Football Money League, the €24.9m they earned through matchday revenue accounted for just 10% of their overall income. The authors concluded that “commercial revenue could prove critical to Milan’s future, with neither broadcast nor matchday sources likely to improve significantly in the short term.”

It was a similar story for city rivals Internazionale, who dropped to 17th in the Money League, their lowest ever position – despite their commercial revenue rising by 18%. Their attendances rose by 9% on average, but their matchday income decreased by 3%. A lack of European football for the first time in years was a contributing factor, but these figures are part of a wider problem for Serie A.

The fact that Italy has the second highest number of clubs in the Money League shows that, if clubs on the peninsula can maximise their matchday income, they will be able to narrow the gap significantly to other European clubs. Financial Fair Play rules make it important for clubs to maximise their income from the stadium to balance out their spending.

But why is Italy so far behind in this respect? The Italia 90 World Cup is remembered for many reasons, but 25 years later, many Italian clubs are still bound by the shackles of debt left behind from the stadium renovation programme. The overall cost of bringing their stadiums up to standard was 84% over budget. Funding was partially sourced from the Italian Olympic Committee, who insisted on installing athletics tracks in many of the grounds. This left ultras far from the pitch and has been a contentious issue ever since.

Potential matchday profits have also been hindered by the high rents paid to the local councils and the lack of a modern infrastructure to allow revenue to be generated through corporate channels. Without owning their stadiums, clubs also lack assets, making the type of foreign investment other European leagues have enjoyed far less likely.

Juventus have set the standard for the other Serie A clubs with the building of the Juventus Stadium on the site of the Stadio Delle Alpi in 2011. Their former stadium was detested by Juventus supporters and the fact that the Delle Alpi lasted just 16 years before it was demolished shows how outdated the stadiums built for Italia 90 have become. The new arena made Juventus €41m last year and is one of only three owned by clubs in Serie A, along with Sassuolo’s Mapei Stadium and Udinese’s Stadio Friuli. The 41,000-capacity, environmentally sustainable stadium features a shopping centre, club museum and an array of corporate hospitality options that come under the umbrella of the Juventus Premium Club. Perhaps most importantly to the fans, the seats are much closer to the pitch, providing a universally unobstructed view.

Adam Digby, the author of Juventus: A history in black and white, says the love for the Juventus stadium among fans is unanimous. “After years of sharing the Olimpico with Torino or playing in the soulless Delle Alpi, the Juventus Stadium feels like home. It’s given a sense of belonging and because it’s small and full – therefore making tickets scarce – attending a game feels much more important than before when they were playing in front of a half-empty ground.”

While Adam wouldn’t credit the stadium with all of Juventus’s recent success, he recognises the importance of the complex in the long term. “The initial success was down to the impact of Antonio Conte and some incredible transfer business. However, it is essential in sustaining it, allowing Juve to slowly increase their wage bill to keep the best players and buy quality replacements for those who choose to move on. It’s difficult, because with the rest of Serie A so far behind, the perception of the league is difficult to overcome. Juventus can’t do it alone and need Italy’s other big clubs to join them in the modern era as soon as possible.”

Juventus aren’t the only club taking steps to modernise. Roma have announced plans to build a new 52,000-seater stadium in the Tor di Valle area of the city. They will leave the oversized Stadio Olimpico, which they share with Lazio, to relocate to a new ground modelled on the Colosseum. Roma chairman James Pallotta says the club need a new home if they are to keep up with the other giant clubs in Europe. “If we are going to consistently compete as a top club in the world we need a new stadium, a stadium that is privately owned by AS Roma.” The club say the stadium, which is due to be completed in time for the 2017-18 season, will contains the “finest premium seating in world football, including private luxury suites, loge boxes and club seats”. In a bid to satisfy the Roma ultras, they will include a 14,0000capacity section that replicates the old Curva Sud.

The realisation that the existing stadiums are holding back Serie A clubs has started to take hold and it is not just the most famous clubs that have put plans in place to modernise. Along with the revamp of Udinese’s Stadio Friuli, Torino recently laid the first brick in their new Filadelfia stadium, which is just a stone’s throw from their current ground at the Stadio Olimpico in Turin.

There is a long way to go for clubs in Italy to get their grounds on par with the European elite, and Italian bureaucracy can prove a stumbling block on the way to progress, as proved in the case of Berlusconi’s Milan. If you compare the Rossoneri’s €24.9m matchday income to that of fellow Emirates sponsored club Arsenal’s €119.8m per season, you can clearly see the gulf between the two. It is worth noting, however, that season tickets cost between £1,000 and £2,000 at the Emirates stadium – a pricing structure that would not be viable in Italy.

Despite this, if Italian clubs can continue to improve and even own their stadiums, freeing themselves from the oppressive cost of council stadium ownership, the league will begin to attract further investment. A return to European dominance of the late 1980s and 1990s could be on the cards.


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It doesn’t pay to get on the bad side of AS Roma fans. In fact they can be real bunny boilers if they aren’t happy with your performance.

That’s what Rudi Garcia’s side found out to their cost at training earlier on Tuesday, when around 50 disaffected supporters arrived with enough carrots to comfortably feed their legion of rabbits in headlights.

It has been a disastrous seven days for the Gialorossi, who were humiliated at the Camp Nou a week ago, losing 6-1 after a magnificent performance by Barcelona. They were arguably worse on their return to domestic action, losing 2-0 at home to Atalanta as they slipped further behind the leaders in Serie A.

Frustrated Roma fans turned up at the club’s Trigoria training base with a 50 kilogram bag of carrots for the players as they held up a banner that read: “Enjoy your meal rabbits!”

After failing to build on back-to-back second place finishes in the previous two seasons, Garcia’s future at the Stadio Olimpico is reported to depend upon victory for Roma in their final Champions League group game at home to Bate Borisov, where only a win will secure their qualification.

Wojciech Szczesny dropped for 'technical reasons', not smoking

The sense of crisis enveloping Roma was only increased on Monday when reports emerged that Arsenal loanee Wojciech Szczesny had been dropped for the Atalanta loss after being caught smoking - less than a year after he was reprimanded by Arsene Wenger for the same reason.

The club subsequently denied these reports, claiming that the decision to replace the Polish goalkeeper had been for "technical reasons".


Italian fans are the best... Rabbits such an under rated insult :laugh:


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Marco Biesla quits Lazio, 2 days after being announced as manager :ohmy:

quite certain he has an international post lined up somewhere.

England ??

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Argentina would be more likely as I'm pretty sure their national team manager just quit/got sacked after they lost the Copa final.

I really don't think his methods would work with the England players they'd just see him as a mad man and probably wouldn't understand what he's trying to tell them to do.


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Napoli owner Aurelio de Laurentiis says agents are a "cancer" on the game and insists players do not need them.

It follows a newspaper investigation that saw Sam Allardyce lose the England manager's job, with agents' roles in transfers also brought into question.

Italian De Laurentiis, 67, who is also a movie producer, said agents "became like a tax" and wanted paying up front.

"In Hollywood, the actor pays [the agent] himself. I don't pay the agent. In soccer, why must I pay?" he said.

De Laurentiis said some transfer deals had fallen through because of disagreements with agents over players' image rights.

"You know, that's a cancer of our domain," he added. "Not every agent. But I don't understand why you need an agent."

However, Mel Stein, outgoing chairman of the Association of Football Agents, believes the same could be said of some club owners and chairmen.

"The fact of the matter is that there are some bad people, but you can't call them a cancer," he said.

"We want to clear it up, and we think we know how."


I wouldn't call them a cancer they're a necessary evil to protect vulnerable young athletes from being exploited they need proper representation in contract negotiations to make sure they get a fair deal as unlike our jobs they can't just put their notice in and leave if they don't like the club.

The simple rule should be that an agent should be paid by the player they employ him to represent them the thing a lot of agents do now is they make themselves a "go between" between the 2 clubs and act as a negotiator and as a result the buying club agrees to pay him a commission on the deal either as a fixed price or a % of the fee. As long as that's all agreed up front I don't really have a problem with that the issue I think comes when you get agents who get the deal done then at the last minute decide they want fees from the club when they've not really done anything and if you don't pay the take the player away.


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Frank De Boer on the verge of being sacked by Inter

14 points in 11 games, 8 behind Milan and 12th in the league

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It's sort of what you get when you decide to change the manager at the last minute he's not selected this squad and it makes you wonder why he took the job in the first place.

Inter always seem to be a complete mess apart from that brief spell of dominance when everyone else got relegated for match fixing they've always been a team who've spent loads of money but never really got it right.

Big story at the weekend was Higuain scoring the winner vs Napoli he didn't celebrate the goal but the win means Juventus are starting to open up a gap already at the top of the league as the chasing pack just aren't consistent enough.


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wont claim to watch a lot of Serie A but that Inter team looks totally unfamiliar to me

that team looks to be in total transition and bereft of the Militos, Zanettis and Walter Samuels of the world

Kondogbia was on the verge of joining Chelsea, so cannot see him stay there for long, same is applicable to Icardi who has burnt bridges with the Ultras.

tough times for the Nerazzuri

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Basically they spent every penny they had to win that European Cup after Mourinho then the FFP rules came in and they've never got their heads around it Moratti decided to sell up to investors who made a bit of a pigs ear of it for a few years. The issue they had was they had ageing players on huge contracts who they strugged to shift they were desperate to sell us Sniejder but Utd couldn't afford to match his wages he ended up going to Turkey because the tax there meant they could afford to meet his net salary. They gave Vidic a big contract as a bosman signing but that didn't work out.

Basically they had all these olders players that generated very little when sold on and they tried investing in younger players but it was all very hit and miss and being Italian football they went through manager after manager 2 or 3 a season at one point. They sacked Mancini 1 week before the start of the season after finishing 4th last season he basically fell out with the owners and just dumped De Boer in last minute so it's no real surprise that they're a mess at the start of the season.

In the summer the owners who took over from Morrati sold to Chinese investors who made a few big late moves but these players aren't allowed to play in Europa League due to FFP restrictions they can only play in League matches. They signed Jaoa Mario for a lot of money and I think they also signed Gabriel Barbosa a young kid from Brazil with a big reputation.

The biggest issue for them is the same one almost all clubs in Italy face and it's until they can build their own stadiums which generates revenue and will attract the fans back they can't compete with Juventus. All these clubs are basically skint so they can't afford to build these stadiums so they're sort of stuck where they are at the moment.

I think the Icardi stuff is starting to blow over a bit he's put back the release date of his book and removed the chapters about the Ultras (he hasn't apologised). They need to keep hold of him and they've signed him up to a long contract and stick with a manager who can build a team in the image of the owners/fans if they just keep sacking managers nothing will ever get sorted.


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Inter Milan have sacked manager Frank de Boer after just 85 days in charge of the Italian club.

Inter are 12th in the Serie A table after a 1-0 loss at Sampdoria on Sunday, their fourth defeat in five league games.

Former Netherlands defender and ex-Ajax boss De Boer, 46, was heavily linked with vacancies at Premier League clubs Everton and Southampton in the summer.

Inter visit Southampton in the Europa League on Thursday (20:05 GMT).

Youth team coach Stefano Vecchi will take charge of the first team for that fixture.

De Boer tweeted that "to carry out this project needed more time" and thanked Inter supporters for their support.

Before joining Inter, De Boer had taken Ajax to four successive Dutch titles but lost out to PSV Eindhoven on the final day of last season.

He signed a three-year contract with Inter in August, replacing former Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini.

It is six years since Inter won the treble of Serie A, Coppa Italia and Champions League under Jose Mourinho, now Manchester United boss, but since coming second in 2011 they have finished sixth, ninth, fifth, eighth and fourth.

They are now looking for a ninth manager since Mourinho left in the summer of 2010.

Newcastle boss Rafael Benitez, Leicester manager Claudio Ranieri and Watford boss Walter Mazzarri have all coached at the San Siro in the past six years.


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