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 Post subject: The Ballon D'Or
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:14 pm 
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Lionel Messi Will Win The Ballon d'Or, But Cristiano Ronaldo Deserves It - Jorge Valdano

Real Madrid's director general thinks that the Barca ace will scoop the prestigious award because of his early-year success. However, he has stated that Ronaldo is a better candidate for the gong.

Jorge Valdano believes that Lionel Messi of Barcelona will win the coveted Ballon d'Or ahead of Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo, though he doesn't believe that should be the case.

Messi helped guide Barca to a unique treble last season and was a member of a front line who scored over 100 goals, along with Thierry Henry and Samuel Eto'o.

"Each in his way is a star from a higher dimension," Valdano was quoted as saying by AS.

"Messi because he runs with the ball attached to the foot, is very effective in one-on-one's and shoots well with his left leg.

"Cristiano because he is fast, with great control of the ball at speed, tremendous power, tremendous continuity during the game, because he is currently the best striker in the world.

"Ronaldo would deserve it, but I've always thought the Ballon d'Or is awarded for what one did until July. Messi won it all."

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I think Ronaldo would probably admit that Messi deserves the title as he was awesome last year and dominated the big games in Europe and took Madrid to the cleaners in the league.

Bit of a pointless statement from Valdano though surely he's just putting more pressure on his star player.


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Thats crap ..messi deserves it..but you can say same about xavi /iniesta...

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Real Madrid's record signing Cristiano Ronaldo leads a list of 30 nominees for this year's Ballon d'Or that does not include a single player from current world champions Italy.

Ronaldo, 24, won the prestigious award last year and will be one of the favourite for this year's title after his stunning start to his career at the Bernabeu.

The Portuguese attacker has scored nine goals in seven games since joining the Spanish giants for a world record £80million from Manchester United in the summer.

Ronaldo, who is currently sidelined by an ankle injury, headed Madrid's significant summer spending which also saw them sign Kaka and Karim Benzema - who were both also included in the list.

There was, however, no room for any players from world champions Italy.

Goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon and Luca Toni were the Azzurri's only nominees last year.

European champions Spain are the best represented nation with six players listed, while the Primera Liga boasts the most players from a single league with 12. The Barclays Premier League is next best with 10 players while Serie A has just four.

Champions League and La Liga winners Barcelona top the list in terms of club representation with six players - Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Thierry Henry, Andres Iniesta, Lionel Messi, Yaya Toure and Xavi.

Chelsea and Manchester United both had three players selected on the list. The Blues' nominees are England captain John Terry, Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba while United's selection affords another accolade to 35-year-old midfielder Ryan Giggs, as well as Wayne Rooney and Nemanja Vidic.

The Ballon d'Or is an award handed out to the world footballer of the year. It is voted for by journalists and organised by France Football magazine.

The winner will be announced on December 1.

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Andrey Arshavin (Arsenal), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid), Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Diego (Juventus), Didier Drogba (Chelsea), Edin Dzeko (Wolfsburg), Samuel Eto'o (Inter Milan), Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), Fernando Torres (Liverpool), Diego Forlan (Atletico Madrid), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Ryan Giggs (Manchester United), Yoann Gourcuff (Bordeaux), Thierry Henry (Barcelona), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Barcelona), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Julio Cesar (Inter Milan), Kaka (Real Madrid), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Maicon (Inter Milan), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Luis Fabiano (Seville), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), John Terry (Chelsea), Nemanja Vidic (Manchester United), David Villa (Valencia), Xavi (Barcelona), Yaya Toure (Barcelona).

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Barcelona Star Lionel Messi Deserves Ballon d'Or – Real Madrid’s Cristiano Ronaldo

Real Madrid fans may not like it, but their star has been praising Barca. Messi received special praise from 'CR9'...

Cristiano Ronaldo believes that Lionel Messi should win the coveted Ballon d'Or award and feels that Barcelona are still a better team than Real Madrid.

The Portuguese star was in generous mood, confessing that the Argentine achieved more than him last term and should be crowned Europe's best player.

Messi is seen as the favourite for the France Football prize, which is due to be announced in December, with Ronaldo also being mooted to retain the gong.

"He's the favourite. He won the Champions League, the Primera league title. Why not him? If he wins it, he will have deserved it," the Madrid star told France Football magazine.

Ronaldo was then asked about Barcelona and the differences between them and Madrid. He stated that, due to their unity, the Catalans are currently the stronger of the two outfits.

"Barcelona play better football [than Madrid], but why?" he continued.

"Because they have been together for several seasons, not two months. Barca are better than us today but the real question is, who will be in front at the end of the season?"

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Barcelona Star Andres Iniesta Deserves The Ballon d'Or - Raymond Kopa

The French legend believes that 'Don Andres' deserves the accolade...

According to Raymond Kopa, this year's Ballon d'Or should end up in the hands of Barcelona's Andres Iniesta.

The Frenchman believes that Blaugrana star should win the award due to his crucial interventions at key moments, which allowed his side to win the treble last year.

"Iniesta is the best for me at the moment," Kopa enthused to L'Equipe.

"I would give the Ballon d'Or to him without a question. With [Lionel] Messi in second position.

"It was Iniesta who saved his team on several occasions, it was thanks to him that Barcelona became champions of various competitions.

"Andres is a great player, really great, and in order for Messi to do well, he needs to be well assisted."

Kopa played in the first ever European Cup final in 1956 with Stade Reims, and won three subsequent European Cups with Real Madrid.

He was also the winner of the Ballon d'Or in 1958, and was nominated for the award on a further three occasions.

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PARIS (AP)—Common wisdom has Lionel Messi of Barcelona as a shoo-in for world soccer player of the year. But Fernando Torres of Liverpool wouldn’t be a bad choice, either.

If the Spaniard isn’t yet the world’s best striker, then he’s getting close. His gift for scoring decisive goals at decisive times, often from the slenderest of openings, makes Spain a favorite heading for the World Cup in South Africa next June.

Torres’ latest mesmerizing goal, for his club against Manchester United, had the hypnotic effect of making us forget about the star whose orbit shifted from England’s Premier League to Real Madrid this summer.

Cristiano who?

For all the criticism of Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez’s recruitment policies—he has brought in 70 or so players, some of them duds, in his five seasons in charge—the club record fee paid for Torres in 2007 was the best $33.3 million Benitez ever spent.

Without Torres, Liverpool can look ordinary. With him, they can be sensational—even when he’s half-lame, as he was last weekend against United.

Credit Dirk Kuyt with presence of mind for not passing straight to Torres, who was offside, when he collected the ball on the halfway line after 64 intense but goal-less minutes. Instead, the Dutch international passed sideways to Yossi Benayoun, who looked up, took a couple of strides, checked and with millimetered precision threaded the ball past United defenders Patrice Evra and Nemanja Vidic to Torres, by then back onside.

Torres beat Rio Ferdinand in a sprint onto the pass. He resisted the United defender’s attempt to shove him off the ball, nudged it forward with the lightest of touches with his right instep, took two more strides and, instinctively, without looking up, snapped off his shot from the tight angle that flat-footed goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar, scorched past the near post and rattled into the top of the net.

Ferdinand walked away disconsolate. But against such pace and icy-cool finishing there wasn’t much more he could have done. Torres’ strike, the foundation for a 2-0 win over United, wasn’t unlike his winner against Germany in the final of the European Championships in 2008. There, he beat defender Philipp Lahm to Xavi Hernandez’s pass and chipped over ‘keeper Jens Lehmann to give Spain its first title in 44 years. Again, it was a demonstration of Torres’ remarkable composure in front of goal.

Liverpool’s No. 9 is now the Premier League’s top scorer this season with nine goals in nine games—conjuring echoes of the “White Album” track “Revolution 9” by Liverpool’s most famous sons, the Beatles, whose songs Torres played to help improve his English after his arrival in England’s northwest. Even more impressive are Torres’ 34 goals in 35 home games at Anfield, where, clearly, the 25-year-old feels as welcome as hot tea on a cold day.

Such stats are why the Golden Ball winner of 1991, Jean-Pierre Papin, lists Torres, along with Messi and his Barcelona teammate Andres Iniesta, as favorites for the trophy that will be awarded Dec. 1 to the world’s top soccer player.

“One mustn’t forget Torres,” says the former Marseille and AC Milan striker, who scored 30 goals in 54 games for France. “He is capable of scoring extraordinary and often decisive goals. Liverpool is not the same without him.”

That last part is code for Torres’ delicate health. His hamstrings proved as fragile as tissue paper last season, when he played in just 24 of Liverpool’s 38 league fixtures. Only for 14 of those were he and captain Steven Gerrard fit enough to start together. Yet those matches produced 18 of their joint total of 30 goals—showing how vital their pairing is to Liverpool’s hopes of ending its 20-year wait for a 19th league crown.

Torres’ latest breakdown has been a groin strain. Only on the ride to Anfield last Sunday did Benitez decide that his player was patched up sufficiently to start against United.

“Sometimes 80 percent of Fernando can make a difference,” said Benitez.

Having inspired Barcelona to a triple crown of Champions League, Spanish league and Copa del Rey last season, Messi would make a deserved Golden Ball winner. So says, among others, 2008 winner Cristiano Ronaldo—who can’t be counted out this year, too, given his star performances for league champion United last season and impressive start this season for Real Madrid.

But if Torres stays fit, helps Liverpool secure the league title it craves and/or shines for Spain at the World Cup, then next year’s award ceremony could be an entirely different story.

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Barcelona Star Lionel Messi Wins Onze d'Or

The Argentine wizard has picked up another award for his performances last season...

According to AS, Barcelona's Lionel Messi has joined an elite group of players by picking up the Onze d'Or award.

The award is chosen by readers of French magazine, Onze Mondial for the player of the year in Europe. Previous winners include Michel Platini, Diego Maradona, Zinedine Zidane and Ronaldo.

Messi was runner up in the award last year, losing out to Cristiano Ronaldo, but has edged out his Portuguese rival as he looks set to clean up in the end-of-year awards this time around.

The Argentine has already picked up a host of trophies including the Trofeo Alfredo Di Stefano, the Premio Don Balon and the UEFA Club Footballer of the Year.

He is also widely tipped to win the forthcoming FIFA World Player of the Year award after being the runner-up for the last two seasons.

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England duo Steven Gerrard and Wayne Rooney have been named as two of the 10 finalists for the 2009 European Player of the Year award.

They join Chelsea's Didier Drogba on the final shortlist for the award, known as the Ballon d'Or, with the winner being announced on 1 December.

Barcelona have four players selected - Lionel Messi, Xavi, Andres Iniesta and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

Kaka, Samuel Eto'o and 2008 winner Cristiano Ronaldo complete the list.

Argentine star Messi is the favourite to win the competition, organised by France Football magazine and voted for in a poll of football journalists.

Liverpool striker Fernando Torres just missed out on the list of finalists, coming 11th, with Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas 12th from the 30-player shortlist named last month.

France striker Thierry Henry was 15th, Manchester United defender Nemanja Vidic 16th, Arsenal striker Andrey Arshavin and Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard joint 21st and Chelsea skipper John Terry joint 26th.


The 10 Ballon d'Or finalists:
Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal) Manchester United then Real Madrid
Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast) Chelsea
Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon) Barcelona then Inter Milan
Steven Gerrard (England) Liverpool
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden) Inter Milan then Barcelona
Andres Iniesta (Spain) Barcelona
Kaka (Brazil) AC Milan then Real Madrid
Lionel Messi (Argentina) Barcelona
Wayne Rooney (England) Manchester United
Xavi (Spain) Barcelona

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Barcelona's Lionel Messi has won the acclaimed Ballon d'Or award after being named European Footballer of the Year.

French magazine France Football said the Argentina forward beat 2008 winner Cristiano Ronaldo into second place by a massive margin - 473 points to 233.

Messi, 22, won the treble of Champions League, the Spanish championship and Spanish cup with Barcelona last season.

Manchester United's Wayne Rooney and Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard were eighth and 10th respectively.

Third and fourth place in the voting were Messi's Barcelona team-mates, the midfielders Xavi (170 points) and Iniesta (149).

Striker Samuel Eto'o, who left Barcelona for Inter Milan during the close-season, was fifth.

The highest-placed English player was Rooney, while Chelsea forward Didier Drogba came ninth.

France Football said Messi, the first Argentine to win the Golden Ball accolade, was only seven points short of the maximum available from the 96 jurors.

The magazine quoted Messi as saying: "Honestly, I knew that I was among the favourites because Barcelona had a fruitful year in 2009.

"But I didn't expect to win with such a margin. The Golden Ball is very important to me. All the players who won it were great players, and some great players never won it.

"I dedicate it to my family. They were always present when I needed them and sometimes felt even stronger emotions than me."

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Argentina star Messi is in the running for Fifa World Player of the Year

Messi becomes the sixth Barcelona player to take the award but the first since Brazilian playmaker Ronaldinho in 2005.

He recently signed a two-year contract extension with the European champions until 2016 - an improved deal which includes a buy-out clause set at 250m euros (£228m).

Messi top-scored in last season's Champions League with nine goals - one of them coming in his side's 2-0 victory over Manchester United in the final in Rome.

That United team contained Ronaldo, the 2008 Ballon d'or winner, but the Portugal forward, who now plays for Real Madrid, was eclipsed by Messi on the night.

Barca coach Pep Guardiola, having completed an unprecedented treble of La Liga, Copa del Rey and Champions League titles, said after the final: "I think he is the best player and we didn't need to win today to know he is the best."

Messi, who joined the Catalan giants from Newell's Old Boys at the age of 13 in 2000, usually plays on the right flank even though he is left-footed.

His scampering runs off the wing and surges across the area to shoot or play-in a team mate have become a trademark of Barcelona's eye-catching attacking style.

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1987: Born in Rosario, Santa Fe on June 24
2000: Joins Barcelona as a 13-year-old from Newell's Old Boys youth team
2003: Makes senior debut at 16 in a friendly against Porto
2005: Leads Argentina to World Youth Championship title, collecting best player and top scorer trophies
2005: Makes Argentina debut in friendly against Hungary in August. Sent off for elbowing.
2005: Becomes a Spanish citizen in September
2005: Makes competitive debut for Barcelona in October
2005-06: Scores six goals in 17 appearances as Barca win Spanish league
2008: Wins gold medal with Argentina at Olympics
2008: Finishes second in the Fifa World Player of the Year vote
2009: Scores second goal in Champions League final victory over Manchester United in May as Barca win their third European Cup
2009: Signs a two-year contract extension in September to keep him at Barca until 2016


The arrival of right-back Daniel Alves from Seville in 2008 freed Messi from his wing duties, allowing him to move deeper into midfield, lose his markers, link up better with Barca playmakers Xavi and Iniesta, and burst through on goal from central positions.

He finished as the club's top scorer with 38 goals in all competitions last season.

Messi, whose style is usually likened to that of Argentine football legend Diego Maradona, came through the Barca youth system and made his senior debut under Frank Rijkaard aged 16.

He is still only 22 but has amassed three La Liga titles, two European Cups and a Spanish cup. He helped Argentina win the Under-20 World Cup in 2005, finishing as top scorer, and won gold with his country at the 2008 Olympics.

Four years ago, Maradona, who has since become Argentina manager, said Messi would be the player to take over his mantle as national hero.

In addition to the Ballon d'Or, Messi is favourite to be crowned 2009 Fifa World Player of the Year on 21 December.

Previous Ballon d'Or winners:
1956 - Stanley Matthews (England), 1957 - Alfredo di Stefano (Spain), 1958 - Raymond Kopa (France), 1959 - Di Stefano, 1960 - Luis Suarez (Spain), 1961 - Omar Sivori (Italy), 1962 - Josef Masopust (Czechoslovakia), 1963 - Lev Yashin (USSR), 1964 - Denis Law (Scotland), 1965 - Eusebio (Portugal), 1966 - Bobby Charlton (England), 1967 - Florian Albert (Hungary), 1968 - George Best (Northern Ireland), 1969 - Gianni Rivera (Italy), 1970 - Gerd Mueller (West Germany), 1971 - Johan Cruyff (Netherlands), 1972 - Franz Beckenbauer (West Germany), 1973 - Cruyff, 1974 - Cruyff, 1975 - Oleg Blokhin (USSR), 1976 - Beckenbauer, 1977 - Allan Simonsen (Denmark), 1978 - Kevin Keegan (England), 1979 - Keegan, 1980 - Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (West Germany), 1981 - Rummenigge, 1982 - Paolo Rossi (Italy), 1983 - Michel Platini (France), 1984 - Platini, 1985 - Platini, 1986 - Igor Belanov (USSR), 1987 - Ruud Gullit (Netherlands), 1988 - Marco van Basten (Netherlands), 1989 - Van Basten, 1990 - Lothar Matthaeus (Germany), 1991 - Jean-Pierre Papin (France), 1992 - Van Basten, 1993 - Roberto Baggio (Italy), 1994 - Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria), 1995 - George Weah (Liberia), 1996 - Matthias, Sammer (Germany), 1997 - Ronaldo (Brazil), 1998 - Zinedine Zidane (France), 1999 - Rivaldo (Brazil), 2000 - Luis Figo (Portugal), 2001 - Michael Owen (England), 2002 - Ronaldo, 2003 - Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic), 2004 - Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine), 2005 - Ronaldinho (Brazil), 2006 - Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), 2007 - Kaka (Brazil), 2008 - Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal).

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Lionel Messi has described becoming the first Argentinian to win the prestigious Ballon d'Or as a "big honour".

The talented Barcelona forward beat last year's winner Cristiano Ronaldo into second place in the poll for Europe's footballer of the year, organised by France Football magazine.

Messi, 22, is the sixth Barcelona player to take the award but the first for four years - since Brazilian playmaker Ronaldinho.

He told France Football: "There's lots of emotion - the Ballon d'Or is very important for me.

"I know I appeared among the favourites because Barcelona had a profitable year.

"For me it's a big honour to win - but also to become the first Argentinian in history to receive the trophy.

"I dedicate it to my family, they were always present when I needed them and sometimes felt even stronger emotions than me."

Messi recently signed a two-year contract extension with European champions Barca until 2016 - an improved deal which includes a buy-out clause worth 250million euros (£228million).

The Argentinian won an unprecedented treble last season as the Catalan side won the Champions League, the Spanish title and the Copa del Rey.

Messi was the top scorer in last year's Champions League with nine goals, including a header in the 2-0 final defeat of Manchester United in Rome.

Messi polled 473 votes, more than double the number Real Madrid's Ronaldo totalled (233) and 27 more than the impressive number the Portugal international managed in winning last year's award.

Ronaldo was the only non-Barcelona player in the top four, with Spain midfielders Xavi (170) and Andres Iniesta (149) next in the list.

Former Barca striker Samuel Eto'o - who also scored in last season's Champions League final, before moving to Inter Milan - was fifth on 75, 17 votes clear of Real's former AC Milan playmaker Kaka.

Barcelona's Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who moved to the Nou Camp in the deal which took Eto'o to the San Siro in the summer, polled 50 for seventh, ahead of a quintet of English-based players.

Manchester United and England striker Wayne Rooney and Chelsea forward Didier Drogba were eighth and ninth, with Liverpool midfielder Steven Gerrard completing the top 10.

Positions 11 to 30 were revealed on Sunday.

Liverpool striker Fernando Torres was 11th, Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas 12th, with Manchester United winger Ryan Giggs - who netted his 100th Premier League goal at Portsmouth on Saturday, finishing 14th.

Barcelona's Thierry Henry, heavily criticised for his handball in France's World Cup play-off win over Republic, completed the top 15.

Manchester United defender Nemanja Vidic shared 16th place with eight points alongside Sevilla striker Luis Fabiano and Real Madrid goalkeeper Iker Casillas.

Atletico Madrid's Diego Forlan polled seven and Bordeaux playmaker Yoann Gourcuff six, while Arsenal midfielder Andrey Arshavin and Chelsea counterpart Frank Lampard shared 21st with five alongside Inter keeper Julio Cesar.

Inter's Maicon (four), Juventus' Diego (three), Valencia's David Villa and Chelsea defender John Terry (two), and Bayern Munich's Franck Ribery and Barcelona's Yaya Toure (one) completed the star-studded list.

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The 23-man shortlist for the prestigious world player of the year award was announced early on Tuesday morning, with the winner to be unveiled on January 13 in Zurich.

Bale, 24, became the world's most expensive player when he joined Real Madrid from Tottenham for £85.3million in September after scoring 26 goals for Spurs last season.

Barcelona and Argentina forward Messi has won the award for the last four years, with Bale's Madrid team-mate Ronaldo consistently his nearest challenger.

Franck Ribery, who was named UEFA's best player in Europe for the 2012-13 season after helping Bayern Munich win the Champions League, Bundesliga and German Cup, is another prominent name on the shortlist.

Ribery is joined by club-mates Philipp Lahm, Thomas Muller, Manuel Neuer, Arjen Robben and Bastian Schweinsteiger, while Barcelona also have Xavi, Andres Iniesta and summer signing Neymar among the candidates.

Paris St-Germain trio Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Edinson Cavani and Thiago Silva have made the shortlist, while fellow Ligue 1 big-spenders Monaco have a contender of their own in Radamel Falcao, acquired from Atletico Madrid in the close season.

Five Premier League players - Manchester United striker Robin van Persie, Manchester City's Yaya Toure, controversial Liverpool frontman Luis Suarez, Chelsea winger Eden Hazard and Arsenal's recent addition Mesut Ozil - have made the cut.

Former Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired at the end of last season, headlines a 10-man coach of the year shortlist along with Jose Mourinho, Carlo Ancelotti and Spain boss Vicente del Bosque.

Ballon d'Or shortlist: Gareth Bale (Real Madrid/Wales), Edinson Cavani (Paris St-Germain/Uruguay), Radamel Falcao (Monaco/Colombia), Eden Hazard (Chelsea/Belgium), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Paris St-Germain/Sweden), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona/Spain), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich/Germany), Robert Lewandowski (Borussia Dortmund/Poland), Lionel Messi (Barcelona/Argentina), Thomas Mueller (Bayern Munich/Germany), Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich/Germany), Neymar (Barcelona/Brazil), Mesut Ozil (Arsenal/Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Juventus/Italy), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich/France), Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich/Netherlands), Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid/Portugal), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich/Germany), Luis Suarez (Liverpool/Uruguay), Thiago Silva (Paris St-Germain/Brazil), Yaya Toure (Manchester City/Ivory Coast), Robin van Persie (Manchester United/Netherlands), Xavi (Barcelona/Spain).

Coach of the year shortlist: Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid/ex-Paris St-Germain), Rafael Benitez (Napoli/ex-Chelsea), Antonio Conte (Juventus), Vicente Del Bosque (Spain), Sir Alex Ferguson (ex-Manchester United), Jupp Heynckes (ex-Bayern Munich), Jurgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund), Jose Mourinho (Chelsea/ex-Real Madrid), Luiz Felipe Scolari (Brazil), Arsene Wenger (Arsenal).


For me player of the year has to be Ribery I know Messi/Ronaldo are ridiculous but they've set the bar so high for themselves that you can only really judge them against themselves for me this last calender year Ribery has been awesome and in terms of being the stand out individual in such a good team it's a bit tricky but if he doesn't win it the award is pointless. Muck like Sniejder not winning it in 2010 what more did he have to do Messi can't just win it every year otherwise the award is pointless the fact is he got injured towards the end of last season and didn't finish that well and it's sort of similar this season.

In terms of the coach of the year it's Heynckes why even bother doing a shortlist


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I'd say the award would be more pointless if it didn't go to the best player every year. If that happens to be Messi then so be it. You can't say he can't win the award because he's too good!

Not sure Hazard has done enough to warrant being on the list, although I do think he has done well for Chelsea so far.


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I'd say the award would be more pointless if it didn't go to the best player every year. If that happens to be Messi then so be it. You can't say he can't win the award because he's too good!

Not sure Hazard has done enough to warrant being on the list, although I do think he has done well for Chelsea so far.


But there has to be some context to it where you limit you judgement of that player over the last 12 months only. In the last 12 months (which is how the award is judged calender year not the footballer calender) has Messi been the best player in the world? In the crunch games over the last 12 months has Messi stared? I would say no he hasn't because he was injured at the time and over the two legs Ribery was part of the Bayern team that ripped Barcelona apart in that semi final.

Messi & Ronaldo for me cannot be seperated and I think Ronaldo is harshly judged because people don't like him whereas everyone loves Messi when Ronaldo wins the trophies and Messi has the better stats Messi wins the awards when Messi wins the trophies but Ronaldo has better stats Messi wins the awards.

I'm not a massive fan of individual awards because the football is a team game Bayern Munich did the treble last season but could year really say there was a stand out player? Sort of like the Utd treble side in 1999 there were so many players who were all consistently brilliant through that season that no one person really stood out as the star player and in that year I think Beckham was runner up in WPOTY. I just think if you were to pick the crunch player who popped up so often in the big games for Bayern at decisive moments last year you'd put Ribery as the main man


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I agree with JSP, it has to go to the player that performed the best in the last year, not the player who is best on paper. Otherwise no player will win the award until Messi retires.

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I never said I think it should go to the best player on paper. I was just saying you can't discount Messi because he wins it every year. If he has been the best he deserves to win it, if not then he doesn't. Simple.


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