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 Post subject: Re: Villa 2010/2011
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:22 am 
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Over spent - He took Villa from 16th to three consecutive 3rd place finishes in the space of 4 yrs.

He spent money but not in much in terms of the improvement of the club.

Milner they're about to make a 14m+ profit on, Ashley Young they could easily double there money on. There aren't many players you cn say he paid over the odds for.

Warnock at £8m
Heskey £3.5m (Thats £3.5m to much)
Reo Coker £6.5m could be seen as a bad deal but looked good at the time
Downing £12m could be worth that in the long run easily.
Friedal £2.5m
Ashley young was 9 - They could double that easily now
Milner 12 - Looks like he's going for 26

I'd say Sidwell and Luke Young were his two bad buys at a combined cost of £10m

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Luke Young is solid, dunno how much they paid for him but I wish we never sold him. Good right back at club level, offers little going forward but can defend alright.

Sidwell is gash. Heskey was a useless purchase really, and he started playing him instead of Carew at some point which was mental.

Warnock at £8m seems too much to me.
Curtis Davies at somewherer between £8-10m? Madness.
He is making a profit on Milner yeah, still not sure he was worth £12m at the time they bought him(pretty sure he'd had a fairly average year with Newcastle), and he certainly isnt worth what City are going to pay for him, thats just luck that there's a mad billionaire out there to buy him. He isnt a £20m player..

Any ideas how much he paid for the likes of Collins, Beye and Delph?

Paid about £8m for Cuellar as well, then seems to have played him out of position most of the time.

He picked up a few bargains I know..but..I dunno, just a lot of those buys seems over the top, and accumulate to alot of money that maybe could've been spent a bit better. So he didnt have to whinge about having a lack of squad depth and tired players..he didnt seem like he wanted to rotate much anyway, either that or he felt the players he bought for the squad werent good enough.

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Over spent - He took Villa from 16th to three consecutive 3rd place finishes in the space of 4 yrs.

did he? :huh:

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Over spent - He took Villa from 16th to three consecutive 3rd place finishes in the space of 4 yrs.

did he? :huh:

:lol: 6th i knew what i meant

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Curties was off the back of a good season and he's young.

Delph is young and definitely one for the future.

If United signed Rodwell for £15m and sold him for £35m in 5 yrs time he still would of come off the back of a pretty average season for Everton but United would have seen the potential in him to be a good player. £12m was a good price for Milner.

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Hmm...all I can say is I disagree. Milner is a good player, I would think he might be worth about £12m now rather than back then...he was in his 20s too, Rodwell hasnt even hit 20 yet. If it wasnt for City he wouldnt be anywhere near £20m IMO. I do like him dont get me wrong..I just think he's gone from being a somewhat under appreciated player, to a massively overhyped one.

I'd be surprised if Fergie would spend £15m on a 19 year old who noone seems to know where he plays. Well..i'd be surprised if he did it again anyway.

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A mate at work is a Villa fan, and he is not too upset by O'Neil going, its more to do with the timing that seems to be annoying him than the fact he has left. He has spent far too much money to have a squad that is as paper thin as Villa have. They have been crying out for a proper goal scorer for years, and they ended up with Heskey! It seems as though they are pinning their hope on the youth team atm, with Delfouneso, Albrighton and Lichaj being thier next big hopes.

He doesn't really mind if they end up with Sven, Bradley or Jol, as long as its not Southgate :D


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He doesn't really mind if they end up with Sven

well that's his first mistake

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Ajax manager Martin Jol is the number one choice of Aston Villa fans to replace Martin O'Neill, according to a local newspaper poll.

Jol is wanted by 28% of Villa supporters in a survey conducted by the Birmingham Mail.

The former Tottenham boss looked set to move to Fulham last month before Ajax insisted he saw out the remainder of his contract.

Everton boss David Moyes is the second choice, polling 16.8%, with Jurgen Klinsmann in third spot (12.1%).

Birmingham boss Alex McLeish collected 3.5% of the vote despite the rivalry between the clubs.

But City are confident McLeish will commit his long-term future to St Andrew's by signing a new deal.

McLeish held further talks earlier in the week over the proposed deal and a source close to the club said "negotiations over a new contract are proceeding well".

Sven-Goran Eriksson has already indicated he would be willing to take over from O'Neill.

Former skipper Gareth Southgate is also believed to be keen on the post.

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MARTIN JOL has been approached by Aston Villa to take over from Martin O'Neill.


The Ajax boss is seen by owner Randy Lerner as the man to lift the gloom in the dressing room and maintain the club's status as a top six side.


Villa have been told that Jol would be interested in returning to the Premier League if they meet Ajax's multi-million pound compensation demand.


It is believed that he could be in place at Villa by as early as this week if personal terms, which include a salary of around £2million-a-year, can be agreed.


O'Neill walked out of Villa Park in midweek after four years in charge.


USA coach Bob Bradley was seen as a serious candidate, while Sam Allardyce, Alan Curbishley and Gareth Southgate have been linked with the job. Reserve team boss Kevin MacDonald took charge of Saturday's opening day clash with West Ham.


Former Tottenham manager Jol nearly succeeded Roy Hodgson at Fulham last month but was shocked at only being offered a salary of around £1million-a-year.


Jol, 54, twice guided Tottenham to fifth place, their highest finish in the Premier League before being sacked by Daniel Levy after a poor start to the 2007/8 season.


The Dutchman has enjoyed success in Germany with Hamburg, taking them to fifth and a UEFA Cup semi-final.


He also finished runners-up last season with Ajax behind Steve McClaren's FC Twente.

Jol is no stranger to the West Midlands having spent two years with West Brom and then a season with Coventry City as a player during the early 1980s.

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Former Argentina boss Diego Maradona has targeted a return to management with Aston Villa.

Maradona's European representative Walter Soriano claims the 49-year-old is in talks with a number of clubs over a possible move to Europe.

The controversial former Napoli star left his role as Argentina coach last month after his side crashed out in the quarter-finals of the World Cup.

Maradona's reputation in England will be forever tarnished by his 'Hand of God' goal against the Three Lions at the 1986 World Cup, but Soriano insists his client would be open to an approach from Villa owner Randy Lerner.

He told the Sunday Mercury: "I think Diego would be very open to the idea of coming to England and managing Aston Villa.

"He is very attracted to English football and the way of life in your country and I know he would be very willing to move there.

"He loves the English countryside and your respect for privacy, so he would be very happy there, especially at a big club like Aston Villa.

"If the owner Randy Lerner wants to make him a serious offer, I am sure he would get a very positive response.

"Diego is currently talking with a number of clubs in Europe - including another one in England - about a management role and is looking at his options carefully."

Lerner is seeking a new permanent manager at Villa Park after Martin O'Neill quit just days before the start of the new Premier League season.

Kevin MacDonald was in caretaker charge as Villa began the new campaign with a convincing 3-0 win against West Ham.

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I think I speak on behalf of everyone when I say....PLEASE let this happen!

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I think I speak on behalf of everyone when I say....PLEASE let this happen!


i did have a giggle when i read the report this morning, i especaily liked this line from the irish indo

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http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/maradona-fancies-villa-job-2298298.html

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:lol: The 'respect for privacy' bit made me chuckle too. Oh dear Diego, you have a lot to learn!

In other news the Sun reports Ashley Cole went to a hotel with a stripper, Drogba went out wearing jeans with patches on and John Terry went to dinner with his wife after the Chelsea match, just in case anyone was wondering. Thanks. For. That.

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Football legend and former Argentina coach Diego Maradona has been linked with the manager's job at Aston Villa. Patty(TINH) lightheartedly look at 10 things to expect should the colourful genius take the reins at Villa Park…

10) Following his move to Villa, Maradona forces his players to join the Church of Maradona. In order to be baptised by John ‘The Baptist’ Carew, each player must emulate the 'Hand of God' at Villa Park. The first to be converted is Stilian Petrov, and Maradona announces that his team is ‘Petrov plus ten others' in a 4-1-5 formation. Diego labels his twelfth disciple, James Milner, ‘Judas’ after he joins Manchester City for 30 million pieces of silver.

9) In his opening press conference, Maradona admits he made a mistake taking the job: "I thought they wanted me to join Ricky Villa, and that we were going to manage a club in Birmingham, Alabama” - home of the Coke bottling company.

8) After being informed that Gabriel Agbonlahor once cheated on three different girls and got them all pregnant at the same time, Maradona applauds his striker and says: “As long as the girls do all the work. Gabby can’t deliver crosses, so I’m sure he won’t even attempt to deliver babies.”

7) Ashley Young is dropped from the starting XI, with Emile Heskey taking his place. When asked why, Maradona claims he had a dream that Heskey led Villa to the title by breaking the Premier League scoring record and hitting the winner on the final day of the season with a 30-yard bicycle kick against Chelsea.

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This wasn't part of the dream

6) On the 25th anniversary of the famous 1986 World Cup quarter final, Maradona storms the SKY Sports studios with his trusted air rifle and wounds three pundits after they claimed that not a single Argentine, including himself, would get into the current England team. Diego then repeats his infamous Athletic Bilbao karate kick on Charlie Nicholas after the analyst replicated his line that "Wayne Rooney would be remembered as the greatest player of all time".

5) Maradona then falls out with the entire press and refuses to speak in English. Journalists are only allowed to ask questions in Spanish and when the first reporter dares to do it, Maradona grins: "Bravo, now tell your mates: 'que la chupen y que la siguen chupando!!!'"

4) Following a heated encounter between Aston Villa and Newcastle United, Joey Barton stands in front of Dieguito’s car as he attempts to drive out of the St James’ Park car park. Maradona reacts by flicking his Cuban cigar into Barton’s eye, running over the ex-convict’s leg, before making a blowjob gesture to the cameras.

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Diego then makes a lurid fist gesture to Barton

3) Maradona tells Sir Alex Ferguson to “go back to the museum”, and Arsene Wenger that he “debuted with lads” after an Arsenal Under-18 team thrashes Man Utd 5-0 in the first round of the League Cup.

2) Socialist Maradona misses Aston Villa’s top of the table clash against Manchester United after travelling down to London for a 'Stop The War' protest in Hyde Park. Dieguito addresses the ten million strong crowd: “Comrades, we must end this evil imperialism. The UK and US are in Iraq and soon Iran for their oil, and in Afghanistan for their drugs.” When chairman Randy Lerner invites President Obama to Villa Park as a guest of honour, Maradona threatens to resign. “Anyone who thinks Obama is going to change the world is stupider than Pele. The puppet wants war and his entire cabinet is Wall Street. We need a revolution. Viva Fidel. Viva Chavez!”

1) After selling Milner for 30 million pieces of silver, Maradona is offered the chance to replace him with Javier Zanetti, Esteban Cambiasso, Diego Milito and Juan Roman Riquelme. El Pibe d'Oro rejects the opportunity and instead spends the money on Ariel Garce, Diego Pozo and his beloved Martin Palermo. Palermo earns a "contract for life" after bundling home an injury time winner on his debut against Chelsea, with Maradona celebrating the strike by belly-diving across the waterlogged touchline and taking out Carlo Ancelotti. "That's payback for when you hacked me during Napoli-Milan in 1988," laughs Maradona after the game.

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Stephen Ireland is determined to rebuild his career at Aston Villa after going from player of the year to spare part in barely 12 months at Manchester City.

The Irishman was City's outstanding player in the 2008-09 campaign, and recognised as such by his team-mates, but a year later he found himself being ushered away by new manager Roberto Mancini and with little option but to move on.

He turns 24 on Sunday, and believes by leaving Eastlands as part of the deal which took James Milner to City he has taken his career in the right direction.

"I have plenty of personal ambitions," Ireland told avfc.co.uk.

"I want to get back to playing the way I can - I haven't played 90 minutes in nearly eight or nine months, which isn't normal really for me.

"I've kind of forgotten the feeling what it is like to come off after a game feeling tired, winning or losing. I'm not used to sitting out for so long.

"So for me, I want to get back to playing at the top of my game and I want to work hard for my team-mates.

"I want to see if my team-mates and myself can push on and achieve something massive this season.

"Hopefully I can come here and build on that and help Aston Villa push on to better targets and reach higher goals. Hopefully I can be of benefit to the team.

"I think we have got a good bunch of young lads here who can go on and achieve something for themselves and for the club as well. We've got a very good squad."

Ireland could embarrass City if he rediscovers his best form at Villa, having looked an outstanding prospect as a midfielder with an eye for goal under Mancini's predecessor Mark Hughes.

He has joined in a deal reportedly worth £8million, and may make his debut against Newcastle on his birthday this weekend.

Since taking over from Hughes at City, Mancini has continued to spend heavily on players thanks to the backing of owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, with Ireland and Craig Bellamy, who moved on to Cardiff this week, effectively frozen out.

Villa owner Randy Lerner is unlikely to embark on such a spree, so Ireland can expect to have a run in the team, thanks to Milner's move in the opposite direction creating a vacancy in central midfield.

Ireland said: "My number one target is to work hard for my team-mates, show them what I can bring to the table, show them they can rely on me and that I am going to work hard for them week in, week out.

"When I get my chance to get on the ball, hopefully I'll shine as well.

"I am really excited. I have only been here a day but I know what it is about already.

"It is a family club, I've seen a lot of happy faces here and a lot of friendly faces, so I am really excited for the future here."


Villa caretaker-manager Kevin MacDonald was naturally disappointed to see Milner leave, but delighted to have Ireland on board.

Speaking in Vienna ahead of the first leg of Villa's Europa League play-off clash with Rapid at the Gerhard Hanappi Stadium on Thursday, MacDonald said: "Stephen is a very talented young player who will complement the talented young players we already have.

"Hopefully Stephen will be as good for us as James was, and good luck to him at Manchester City.

"It's sad to see James go, but it's a great boost for the club that Stephen is coming in."

Asked to highlight the differences between Ireland and Milner, MacDonald said: "Stephen's slightly different from James, but both are intelligent footballers.

"Stephen is a more inventive player who can link up with people, gets in the box and scores a lot more goals, and hopefully he'll do that for us.

"James has developed into a natural midfield player, Stephen has obviously played there most of his career, and from a young age.

"He probably understands the position a little more - not better - but a little more than James does, but they are two very fine footballers."

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Haha that 10 Things to Expect sadly sound quite plausible for Diego! :lol:

Ireland will be a good signing for Villa I think. They can always find another workhorse ;)

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I think Ireland will be brilliant for Villa, I'm a big fan. He'll get a run of games in the side and will be one of the focal points of their attack which I think he'll thrive in.

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Great signing by Villa now if they have any cash left over spend it on a decent striker and they might be able to build on last season. However, it does sound like the cash from this deal will be used to cover the wage bill which is apparently 85% of Villa's turnover which is just too high.


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