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 Post subject: Re: John Terry: Skipper, Leader, Role Model & Loyal Friend
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:10 pm 
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I know what you're saying JSP, but you only have to look at the publics opinion on both guys. I'd say the majority of non-Chelsea supporters think he's a grade A c**t of a man. He's a chav and doesn't seem like a particularly nice bloke. Giggs is no saint but I think he's probably one of the most popular footballers around amongst rival supporters. For a United player that says it all really. What he did was massively c**nty, and without doubt it's tarnished how people see him...but he does seem like an alright bloke if you didn't want to marry him.

You could argue the publics opinion on both men have been spun by their PR teams, but considering both will have teams to make them look good I think thats a void point.

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I don't think Terry is a racist, but I have no doubt that he said what is rumoured. You don't have to a specialist lip reader to see that. It was my bad earlier, I meant "clearly see him making a racist comment". I suppose "clearly see him being a racist" is the same thing I'm not sure.

I don't think he was calling hin a c*** because he was black - that's the difference. I think he just used an adjective, like Ginger, fat, speccy etc.

And I don't think you can remove that and compare the two. Because there is a lot more in JT's locker than shagging his mates wife.

There is no way they are similar in my book, regardless of club. There are lots of players at lots of clubs I like


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For some reason The Sun choose to put a story about John Terry rearranging his financial affairs on their front page.

Who are we to ponder the deliberations of the mighty on these things, but we will share with you the following passage, simply because it made us laugh a great deal:

'During this time he also tried to sell his own mansion for £6.5million, but was unable to achieve the asking price and withdrew.'

'A friend of the star said viewers "raised questions over taste" after Terry astroturfed the front garden.'

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It can’t have escaped your notice that there is currently a silent epidemic sweeping through the Premier League, a craze which fosters a culture of hostility, shame and devastatingly sudden isolation – The Relentless Nutmegging of England’s John Terry.

There was a point when John would fight the mockery in the only way he knew how…


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“Natmeg this you c**t!”

…but those days are sadly gone. John is old, weary, broken. The legs have gone, the mind is soon to follow. When even Andy Carroll is ‘doing you like a kipper’ then you know the end is probably nigh.

Said Terry himself, eyes glazed, through chattering teeth:

“It’s pwopa nawty geez. Makin’ me look like a fackin gimboid innit?

“First I made out like dey were all meggin’ me cuz me fackin Hampton Wick’s so fackin huge that I couldn’t close me Bacon And Eggs up pwopa like – but troof be told guv, I’m hung like a fackin dormouse.”

And so, the appeal for help goes out.

With just £400,000 a week, we will be able to ship John Terry off to the Chinese Super League or the UAE, where he can live out the rest of his footballing days in peace. He’ll still get nutmegged, but at least he won’t be able to read the papers afterwards.

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Chelsea footballer John Terry's dad has been charged with carrying out a racist attack.

Ted Terry, 59, was charged today with two racially-motivated offences when he answered bail after being arrested on March 22.

He is accused of committing a racially-aggravated common assault and racially-aggravated fear of violence.

Two other men, Tudor Musteata, 47, and Stephen Niland, 36, were both charged with causing racially-aggravated fear of violence over the same incident.

A City of London Police statement said: "Following an incident which occurred at Fenchurch Street, London on 22nd March, 2013, three men have today been charged with racially aggravated offences.

"All three men were charged at Bishopsgate Police Station and will next appear at City London Magistrates Court on 23rd July."


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Some reports in the Sunday papers saying he's considering coming out of international retirement.

To me that sounds like it's come from Terry's people to see how it goes down as he obviously wants to play in the world cup.

I personally would be gutted to see him come back into the England team I'm almost at the point where I like the England side again the "golden generation" of bell ends that we produced are nearly all gone and it feels a bit fresh again and most of the guys who currently play haven't done something to make you hate them.

Terry is playing really well for Chelsea this season but England have to move on they have a decent partnership in Jagielka/Cahill who got us through qualification then some decent prospects like Smalling/Jones/Caulker backing them up if we bring Terry back it would be a huge mistake.

The desperation to bring back the older players who've delivered nothing but failure baffles me they've had their chances and didn't take them so why keep going back to them give the kids a chance to play in a big tournament and try to build something for 4 years time in Russia.


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One paper reporting today that Terry is likely to leave in the summer as he's only being offered a 1 year contract which also includes a basic wage cut whereas Terry is looking to secure a 3 year deal with Galatasary apparently interested in taking him.

Sounds to me like an agent leaking a few stories to try and get the talks to progress


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I think he still has something to offer at club level. But I think Chelsea need to move forward, away from Cole, Lampard, Terry etc. I can even see them replacing Cech soon.


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They've been leaning towards that for a while, Lampard looked like he was on his way out last year until Mourinho demanded he got a new contract. Cole has been dropped at points this year I beleive, and Terry is getting on.

Cech is only 31 though, and playing pretty consistently from what I've seen, so if it wasn't for the competition from Courtois I doubt they'd be having any thoughts of replacing him. Who knows what they'll do at the end of the season as by all accounts the kid is one of the best around already, and he's not going to get farmed out again.

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Terry has been fine this season but as we've seen with Rio this season you can suddenly get a massive drop off in level of performance in one season so a 3 year deal would be a risk. At 34 they gave Lampard a 1 year deal Terry is 33 so maybe he's asking for a 3 year hoping to get a 2 year with an option for a 3rd as something like that.

I think they're looking to move on from Cole this summer I can see them going for Shaw in the summer and trying to keep Cole as back up for 1 season to ease the transition.

Cech is performing they're getting to the point where they have to make a decision on this Courtious guy as his contract must be getting to that 2 year point where they either bring him back and sell Cech or sell Courtious as neither is going to sit on the bench. It's a tough call but I can see them maybe selling Cech and going with the youngster next year.

This year they've slowly started to ease out Lampard and because it's Mourinho and not Benitez fans aren't demanding he plays every minute of every game because the team is winning nearly every week.


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The last time Manchester City failed to beat the opposition goalkeeper on their own ground they finished the match with Roque Santa Cruz in attack. There were angry, mutinous chants during that 0-0 draw against Birmingham protesting about Craig Bellamy being loaned to Cardiff City, and none of the goodwill that Roberto Mancini encountered later in his tenure. "Fans abuse Mancini after Manchester City draw blank," was the Guardian's headline. That was November 2010, 11 months into Mancini's reign and back when a banner at Old Trafford counted the number of years since City won a trophy. It feels like a different era entirely.

The history lesson is important because it puts into context the expertise of Chelsea's defending in Manchester on Monday. No other away side had kept out City in 61 games, and the previous 18 had totted up 72 goals on Manuel Pellegrini's watch. Chelsea had heard all the sneering comments about parking the bus. What they did was far more adventurous, but it did also remind the sport that defending at its highest level is never to be derided. Nobody can doubt Chelsea's competitive courage going into the business end of the season, particularly bearing in mind the ongoing renaissance of the man in the middle of it all, forehead scarred, wearing a seen-it-all-before expression and making it absolutely clear this team does not bend for anyone.

John Terry will always divide opinion. It has not always been easy to embrace him and it will never be straightforward campaigning on his behalf, so perhaps it is best to take personality out of it and just consider Terry the centre-half, the man who heads the ball away, who plays at the back but leads from the front and gives the impression on nights such as Monday that any half-chance for the opposition constitutes a personal affront. The ultimate big-game player, you might say. Or as José Mourinho put it, "the best central defender in the Premier League, 2013-14."

Mourinho loves to discuss this subject, not least because it is another way to identify what he perceives as a flaw in the previous manager, Rafael Benítez. Others might argue on behalf of Per Mertesacker after a season of authority in the heart of Arsenal's defence. Yet Mourinho is not exaggerating the scale of Terry's impact since returning to the team and it is difficult not to marvel bearing in mind a member of England's backroom staff confided during the last European Championship that it was a "miracle" he was capable of performing at any decent level, such was the battering he had taken from playing through injuries and putting his body on the line. Twenty months on, it is an extraordinary feat of endurance that the 33-year-old has not missed a single minute in the league this season.

Inevitably, Roy Hodgson will have to brace himself for more questions about whether it is the time to usher Terry back into the England team. Mourinho certainly thinks his captain deserves to add to his 78 caps. "I think (Phil) Jagielka did a very good job but John is playing amazingly well," the Chelsea manager said. "Now it is up to the FA, to Roy and to John. The decision they make is the decision I accept."

It is a bit more complicated than that, of course. For starters, Terry is officially retired from international football and would need to undo that decision before Hodgson could think about it seriously. Terry let it be known a while back that he wanted another chance, but he then informed Hodgson he did not know where those stories had come from and re-iterated publicly that he was not going back, even with a World Cup on the horizon. Since then, there has been absolutely no indication of another change in direction. Indeed, there are people around him who say there is no chance of it happening.

For his part, Hodgson has frequently stated – to the point of exasperation – that he wants to show loyalty to the players who helped the team through the qualification process. An injury build-up might shift his position, as it did with Rio Ferdinand last year, but a recall for Terry would still represent a considerable volte-face bearing in mind the politics and history behind it. The question was asked in San Marino last March and Hodgson's response was withering. "Maybe while we're talking about John we could talk about Roy McFarland and Colin Todd. How far back do you want us to go? Where do we stop? Should Michael Owen come out of retirement every time we can't score a goal?"

Nobody can say it is ideal, though, that on the back of the Ferdinand issue England will probably be going into a second successive tournament while a player being acclaimed as the best of his type in the country is not in the manager's thoughts. Sir Alex Ferguson makes a relevant point in his latest autobiography. "Centre-backs were the foundation of my Manchester United sides. Always centre-backs." An accomplished partnership provides the stability for any successful team. It also gives the full-backs the encouragement to push forward and double up on the opposition with wide-midfield players. Jagielka and Cahill have done more right than wrong since establishing themselves as Hodgson's first-choice pairing, but there is still a portfolio of evidence that Mourinho is correct – and that an all-Chelsea pairing of Terry and Cahill would be an upgrade.

Chelsea's total of 44 goals scored from 24 league games is three fewer than the leaders Arsenal, 24 inferior to City and 14 worse off than Liverpool in fourth. Fernando Torres, Samuel Eto'o and Demba Ba have 11 between them - to put it into context, the same number as Loïc Rémy has managed for Newcastle. "It is so difficult for us to score a goal now," he lamented before leaving the Etihad.

So much focus has been on these shortcomings, however, it has barely gone noticed that they have conceded only 20 goals, making them the most parsimonious team in the country. Cahill is not flawless, but another warrior alongside Terry on the days when a defence requires its utmost concentration and players who will give everything to get their bodies in front of the ball. César Azpilicueta deserves more acclaim for his performances in what used to be known as Ashley Cole's position while Branislav Ivanovic is always a sturdy opponent and the two holding midfielders, David Luiz and particularly Nemanja Matic, demonstrated an understanding of their positions that was not always evident with their counterparts in light blue, Yaya Touré and Martín Demichelis.

Plainly, Mourinho is willing to accept that his team do not have enough manpower in attack, citing the goals issue again when he interrupted a question about it being a three-horse title race to downplay Chelsea's chances and describe it more like "two big horses and a little horse who needs milk and to learn how to jump".

Instead, he is trying to compensate for an obvious deficiency by making sure his team have the defensive togetherness and know-how that can make them champions in a very different way. That does not mean they are exclusively defence-minded, as City can now testify, but it is their core strength and it is Terry who underpins so much of it for the "little horse" – which is not bad for a player who looked destined for the knacker's yard not so long ago.


This comes about every now and then and if Jags was injured you could make a case for it if England were genuine challengers but we're not and the baggage that comes with him just makes it a huge no no.

Give the young players a chance but if they're both fit it's jags & Cahill as the starting pair for this tournament.


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A young shop assistant got into hot water at the fancy department store she works at for calling Chelsea superstar John Terry "a pig".

The Sun reports that 23-year-old Elisha Ram, who worked at Bentall's in Kingston-upon-Thames, was at the clothes counter where she works when Terry approached and said hello.

As Terry walked away, Elisha then turned to her colleagues and said, "He is quite good looking in real life - but he's a pig."

Immediately, Elisha's colleagues starting frantically telling her to be quiet:

"They were like, ‘Sssh sssh sssh,’ and I said, ‘What? Why?’ And his wife was right there," Elisha told the paper.

That's right: mortifyingly, Terry's wife Toni Poole had overheard Elisha's comment, which Elisha says she made because of Terry's alleged (but always denied) affair in 2010 with Vanessa Perroncel, who had been a long-term partner of Terry's then team-mate Wayne Bridge.

"She looked right at me and then she looked away. I didn’t even know she was there — I didn’t know what she looked like in the first place. My heart dropped and I felt so bad."

Elisha quickly walked away - no doubt to hide in the bathroom until the captain, leader and legend had left the shop.

But Terry used the shadowing and tracking skills which made him one of the world's best centre-backs to catch up with her to confront her.

"He was coming towards me and said, ‘I don’t appreciate you calling me a pig in front of my wife,'" continued Elisha.

"I said, 'Oh my God,' and I turned into a little child. I said I was really, really sorry."

But then, showing the sort of temper flare that JT himself might have been proud of, Elisha decided to reiterate her original verdict:

"Then I just snapped, got defensive and retaliated, saying, 'You're a disgrace.'"

It's a view that might be shared by anyone who witnessed the Terry own-goal against Crystal Palace that sunk Chelsea's title hopes.

But clearly there's a time and a place to air such views, as Terry angrily pointed out to Elisha's manager - who ended up suspending Elisha from her job as a disciplinary measure.

Elisha kept her job - though God knows she'll probably lose it once her boss takes a look at the paper - but remained defiant, claiming that she had been perfectly justified to take a pop at Terry.

"I wasn’t being horrible, I just said my opinion," she said. "I even said he was quite good looking."


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John Terry could yet go to the World Cup – as a television pundit.

Roy Keane’s decision to pull out of travelling to Brazil for the tournament has left ITV looking for a new panellist. Former England captain Terry was immediately installed as the bookies’ favourite to replace Keane and it is believed the 33-year-old is on ITV’s list of targets.

Having retired from international duty two years ago, Terry has been preparing for a summer off after earning a new one-year Chelsea contract.

England manager Roy Hodgson resisted calls to try to convince Terry to end his retirement and play in this World Cup.

Keane, meanwhile, looks set to accept an offer to become Aston Villa’s assistant manager, but will continue in the same role for the Republic of Ireland, at least until the end of the European Championship qualification campaign.


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John Terry has admitted he was reduced to tears by the wasteful end to Chelsea’s Premier League title challenge last season, but is confident the additions to the spine of José Mourinho’s team have strengthened their challenge this time around.

There was a period towards the end of the last campaign when the London club had their destiny in their own hands, only to drop points wastefully at Aston Villa, Crystal Palace and, most damagingly of all, at home to Sunderland and Norwich City. That left them trailing in third behind Manchester City and Liverpool, though the arrival of Diego Costa and Cesc Fàbregas, and the continued development of Nemanja Matic, have hoisted their ambitions.

“I was in tears over the Premier League last year, over throwing that away and not winning it,” said Terry. “That’s what I play for week in, week out. I’m never scared to show my emotions. I just want to win trophies, that’s what I’m born to do, it’s in me from when I was a kid. I just want to win games, whether that’s in the Premier League or the Champions League.

“Those three signings are quality, all unbelievable players but big characters as well, on and off the pitch. What I call real men, and players with great experience as well. Matic had to come to Portugal [with Benfica] and gain experience, but came back to Chelsea a completely different player and a man now. He was superb again against Sporting. Cesc has been in England before so he knew what to expect, and you expect him to hit the ground running, which he’s done.

“With Diego we didn’t know. We’ve seen it before: some strikers take months and months. But he’s hit the ground running. Eight goals already is superb and it’s great for us. He’s a good character, a great character. Without speaking a word of English he gets by and gets on great with everyone. He puts himself about but gets up and battles on, and plays with little niggles. That’s what you want. That’s why he’s come to the Premier League: to win. He made that clear to everyone in pre-season. He’s come here to win trophies. That’s what he wants to do.”

Terry raised a century of appearances in the Champions League proper – he is the sixth Englishman to achieve that landmark – in Tuesday’s victory at Sporting Lisbon having made his debut in the competition 11 years ago in a 2-0 home defeat to Besiktas. The European Cup has been cruel to him at times in the seasons since, most notably with his miss in the penalty shootout in the final in 2008 with the trophy within reach, and the red card he accrued for kicking Alexis Sánchez, then with Barcelona, in the semi-final four years later. He will confront the Chilean again at Stamford Bridge on Sunday when Arsenal make the trip across the capital seeking to avenge last season’s 6-0 defeat in the same fixture.

The Chelsea captain, who signed a new one-year contract in the summer, still aspires to claiming the Champions League with the club. “There have been many [highlights] over the years but, when we beat Barça and Bayern Munich in the early days, the first taste of it…” said the centre-half. “But for me the most important thing is not just the 100 appearances but to strive to go on and win it again for the club. On a personal note I’m delighted to reach that many games, it’s a great achievement, I think only 28 players have done it. So to stay in a great side for that long and to play that many games is an honour.

“I hope this team is good enough to win it again. That’s obviously the target, the mentality of where we are as a club, and it has been for the last 10 years or so since the owner came in. With José Mourinho back in now, that’s our target and that’s the standard. Maybe 10 years ago when we first came into it that wasn’t the expectation but now, with the money that’s been invested, the players we have and the experience we have in the competition, that’s always the target.

“I’m still driven on by missing the final two years ago. The biggest night ever for the club, and I didn’t play in it. But I played in one [in Moscow] and I felt a massive part of it, and the players made me feel a huge part of Munich. Along the way you look back at games, like the Napoli game [in the 2012 last-16 tie] and others where you played a big part as well. But, because it’s me, people look and say: ‘He’s not won it.’ People like to have their digs and their pops, but I know I played a huge part, in the dressing room and on the field as well, so I count myself to have won it. No one speaks about the other 10 players who weren’t on the pitch that night in Munich as well. Maybe that’s me and that’s where I am at as a player.”


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QPR defender Rio Ferdinand admits that despite his differences with John Terry, his former England centre-back partner has been "outstanding" this season.

The pair no longer speak as a result of the fall-out from Terry's racism case with Ferdinand's brother, Anton.

In his autobiography published last year, Rio Ferdinand admitted he found it "impossible to forgive or forget" the pain of that incident.

But in his column in The Sun on Friday, the former Manchester United defender praised Terry for an impressive season that leaves Chelsea on the brink of reclaiming the Premier League title for the first time since 2010.

"It's no secret that me and John Terry are not the closest of mates,” Ferdinand told The Sun. “But just because we no longer get on does not mean I've lost my admiration for him as a footballer.

"His performances for Chelsea this season have been nothing short of outstanding and I'm not afraid to say it. John took the decision to retire from playing for England and had his reasons, but Chelsea are reaping the benefits.

"John is finding, as I did, that the upside of being off the international scene is that your body gets the rest it needs which allows you to keep performing at top level well into your 30s.”

Ferdinand is not alone in his praise for Terry, with Sky Sports pundit Jamie Carragher describing him as the “best centre-back to have played in the Premier League.”

“We talk about Chelsea being a defensive team, but sometimes you’ve got to say they defend brilliantly, and Terry is the best,” the former Liverpool defender wrote in his Sky Sports column.

“There have been a lot of great centre-backs in Premier League history, but I think he has been the best that we’ve seen.”

Ray Wilkins, a guest on Thursday’s edition of The Morning View on Sky Sports News HQ, picked out the importance of Terry’s ability to read the game so well.

“John is John. He’s just a fantastic defender and he’s a throwback,” said Wilkins.

“John has never had any pace but importantly for him the first 10 yards are in his head. He reads the game so well. Wherever the ball is he’s in the right position in relation to where the ball is.

“He sticks his head in the way of the ball and defends properly and I think he’s been the basis from where Chelsea have sprung from.”


Will be interesting to see where he stands on the football writers award this season as it seems like there's been a lot of noice recently to see him get the recognition he deserves for a great season on the pitch.

He's on course to play every PL match this season something he's never done before.

I'll admit 2-3 seasons ago I thought he was finished but since Mourinho has come back and changed the way the team plays allowing him to sit deeper with proper protection in front of him he's been allowed to flourish


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