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Bad for them, he's looked a great player since joining, really started his City career off well.

Arsenal at the weekend and then Liverpool on the 31st will be massive tests for them.

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Shame ..He is a brilliant footballer but not sure how long his knees can afford..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
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Pep Guardiola felt he needed something extra in attack and his director of football, Txiki Begiristain, gave it to him in the form of a skinny-legged Brazilian teenager from Palmeiras with high hopes and a catchy name. Although as it turned out Keirrison’s name was probably the best thing about Barcelona’s new attacking signing in the summer of 2009.

What a name it is too. Shortly before Keirrison moved to Spain his father explained that as a young man he had become fixated with the leather-trousered Lizard King rock god Jim Morrison of the Doors. In a slightly roundabout tribute, Keirrison’s elder brother was called “Kimarrson”. Two years later his younger brother arrived and was named Keirrison, a more complex mash-up of Light My Fire ace Morrison and grizzled Rolling Stones riff machine Keith Richards.

Sadly, in the years since, Keirrison’s time at Barcelona has become a minor cautionary tale. “I am very happy to be fulfilling my dream of playing at the best club in the world,” he announced on his arrival. Except, he never actually did, unless the best club in the world happens to be Benfica, Fiorentina, Santos, Cruzeiro or Curitiba, where Keirrison spent the next five years on and off the Barça payroll. He is best remembered as a kind of system error, an example of the occasional disjunct between the needs of a manager and the whims and hunches of his director of football.

At which point, emerging from the gloom, breath steaming the air, enter Gabriel Jesus: another skinny-legged Brazilian teenager from Palmeiras with high hopes and a catchy name. Once again Guardiola needs something extra. And once again Begiristain, now director of football at Manchester City, has dished up a lithe, beautifully balanced 19-year-old striker on his first overseas stint who will apparently be the club’s only arrival in the January window.

To date Jesus has been in the country for less than a week, much of which seems to have been spent horsing around in his hotel room posting selfies. Meanwhile, in the wider world his manager continues to crunch through the gears. Some have suggested Guardiola’s current prickliness is a response to the way the media reported an animated conversation with Begiristain after the defeat at Liverpool. The main topic was said to be a lack of aggression and drive in the group of players he has inherited. At which point enter, smiling politely, a skinny-legged ... Well, we’ve already done that. Either way, no pressure Gabi old boy. Over to you!

There is, of course, no real comparison to Keirrison. For a start Jesus is far more advanced in his career, an established talent already playing as a central striker for Brazil and an increasingly compelling presence alongside Neymar and Luan in the run to last summer’s Olympic gold medal. And yet for all the stardust it isn’t hard to spot some slightly alarming hurdles in his path at what is a genuinely curious moment in City’s modern history.

Firstly well, yes, he is a slight, waif-like teenage Brazilian, a type that has traditionally caused English football to shake its head, take off its jacket and start wearily cracking its knuckles. Like Neymar at the same age, Jesus looks as though he’s made of twigs, sherbet and tissue paper. Either way the initial battle will be simply to establish his willingness to share a pitch with players who will tread on his toes, jounce him in the clinches, rag him to the floor wherever possible and generally see if they can get a rise.

Not that this is likely to be a real problem. Jesus has already been sent off once in his career for fighting back (he was very sad and sorry). But you don’t go from street footballer to teenage international without being able to take a kick or a push. He’s wiry and quick and deadly enough in front of goal to take his own kind of revenge.

The real obstacles are largely out of his hands. Firstly, if you were to pick out a single thing this City team doesn’t need right now it would probably be a jinky utility forward who needs a bit of a settling-in period. Hmmm. No, not right now thanks. We’re good.

Second, there are some obvious pressures on the system that brought Jesus here. Since Begiristain’s arrival City’s transfer machinery has been undeniably wonky. The past two years have seen £200m spent on John Stones, Claudio Bravo, Leroy Sané, Raheem Sterling, Fabian Delph and Nicolás Otamendi, all of whom are, to various degrees, still might-yet-bes. Kevin De Bruyne has been a huge hit as has Fernandinho. But the fact remains eight windows into the Txiki era City’s best signings are still David Silva, Sergio Agüero and Yaya Touré, all of whom arrived on Brian Marwood’s watch.

There are even some who will argue Begiristain’s reputation has been massively inflated by all those incidental jewels that just happened to turn up along the way at Barcelona. Those who know say it was Sandro Rosell who bagged Ronaldinho and Joan Laporta who produced Samuel Eto’o from his hat. Whereas at City, Begiristain has overseen more than half a billion pounds spent without managing to find a single Pep-class full-back, a ready-made howler-free centre-half or a squad that can match what his manager demands in grit, drive and adaptability. Good luck with all that, then, Gabi old boy. There is a fair chance a 19-year-old new signing will struggle to impose himself in these circumstances. Jesus is a punt, an interesting idea, City’s jinky, frozen sprite, here to enact his own minor miracle of winter transformation as soon as he gets over his jet lag, settles in at the hotel and starts to assert his pure, largely unexplored talent. But he does have two big things in his favour.

Firstly Guardiola will believe, will try to make it work, will love Jesus’s hard work and versatility, and has already promised to play him in his new role at centre-forward rather than fudging it in wide areas. And second, Jesus is a proper talent. Watch his movement, the gymnastic, feather-footed little twists and turns, his ability to pass, dribble and finish, and it’s hard not to become a believer. He is also no stranger to carrying the weight of expectation. Jesus has always been a prodigy. He scored 37 times in 22 games in the under-17 Paulista Championship and was the object of a petition by the club’s fans to propel him into the first team. He started horribly at the Olympics, grew into the team, and has become a key peg in Tite’s new-look Brazil, a tentative, and so far successful shot at a more fluent Seleção, and a bunch of players that operate under pressures that make City’s teething problems look parochial.

Most likely Jesus will spend the next few weeks looking chilly on the bench in a thermal hat. But he remains an intriguing presence, a lovely, floaty little converted winger with a low-slung centre of gravity, and a fascinating test of how Guardiola – the aesthete, the purist – intends to approach the winter slog.


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Manchester City have been charged with breaking the Football Association’s anti-doping rules after allegedly failing to provide detailed “club whereabouts” information for their players on three separate occasions.

The charge does not concern any individual player. On Tuesday the governing body issued a statement which said: “It is alleged the club failed to ensure that their ‘club whereabouts’ information was accurate, contrary to regulation 14(d).”

The Premier League club has until 19 January to respond to the charge and is likely to receive a financial punishment should it be found guilty. It is understood the charge concerns training schedules not having been updated with regard to where players would be at particular times – including members of City’s elite development squad.

The FA operates a whereabouts team that has to be informed of where any player of any club might be so that they can be tested whenever the anti-doping department of the governing body wishes.

The FA has a three-strikes-and-out policy and it is alleged City have fallen foul of this, having thrice failed to update schedules of players who have changed training times when they have, for example, moved to train with Pep Guardiola’s first-team squad. Once Manchester City enter a plea, an independent commission will sit and judge the case.

When this will occur is dependent on how City plead and what evidence it might provide for any mitigating circumstances. If the club accepts the charge the case should be resolved quicker than if it pleads not guilty as the commission will require more time to consider it.

The matter concerns a breach of FA rules only and is not under the jurisdiction of the World Anti-Doping Agency, which has no provision for team violations in its code, or UK Anti-Doping.

Manchester City are not considered to have committed an anti-doping rule violation (ADRV), because there is no provision for team ADRVs in the World Anti-Doping Agency Code – the document that harmonises anti-doping policies and related rules and regulations for sport across the world. Instead City have been charged under FA rules only and are facing a code of conduct charge that is likely to lead to a reprimand or fine.

Regulation 14(a) reminds clubs that they must furnish the FA upon request with any whereabouts information, which at a minimum should include the dates their players train, the start and finish times of training, the address at which such training will take place; and the home address for a player and any other address at which they regularly reside overnight.

Regulation 14(c) also tells clubs that it will be a breach of the regulation for a club to fail to provide regular details of the times, dates and venues of the club’s training sessions in the manner directed by the FA. Regulation 14(d) – which Manchester City have violated – says it is a breach of the regulations if the information contained in such reports is either initially inaccurate or has not been updated by the club as necessary to ensure it remains accurate.

Guardiola’s side are fourth in the Premier League on 42 points, seven behind the leaders, Chelsea, and next play Everton at Goodison Park on Sunday. City’s captain, Vincent Kompany, may be back after seven weeks out with a knee injury. The Belgian has been training all week with the senior squad, along with Leroy Sané who has been out with a muscle injury since before Christmas.


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John Stones, he has been poor for City . is it just collective fault or his ?


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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
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John Stones, he has been poor for City . is it just collective fault or his ?


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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
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I think it's a collective thing and it's wrong to just single out 1 person.

The keeper is struggling to settle and is very nervous on crosses and doesn't even be able to save shots at the moment.

Stones is struggling to settle into the team and is made to look worse when Fernandinho doesn't play as he doesn't have a pass into midfield can't be helped by the constant flipping between a back 4 and a back 3.

They have pretty poor options at full backs they're all 30 plus and can't get up and down

Midfield they just have no quality when Gundogan is out Yaya is 34 and his legs went 18 months ago he can still give you flashes but he can't be box to box, Fernandinho misses way to many games, Fernando isn't good enough and Gundogan gets a lot of injuries.

You then have the attack none of the attack see to link with Aguero they all seem to be doing their own thing all the time very little combination play between them De Bruyne is putting it great crosses but doesn't really have anyone to hit but he has also only scored 1 league goal this season.

The whole thing just looks a right mess at the moment and dare I say it similar to us under LVG this high possesion structured football just didn't work the players didn't adapt to it quickly and the opposition worked out ways to punish it if you put that defence under pressure they make mistakes and they can't play out.

I'm sure Pep will turn it around and improve them but they need a big summer transfer market to fine tune that squad especially in defence/midfield.


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Alan Shearer believes that John Stones is showing few signs of improvement at Manchester City.

Stones joined City from Everton for £47.5million in the summer, but has endured a difficult start to life at the Etihad Stadium.

The 22-year-old was awful as City slipped to a 4-0 defeat to the Toffees at Goodison Park on his first return to his former club on Sunday.

Speaking on BBC’s Match of the Day 2, Shearer questioned whether the centre-half actually is the real deal.

“John Stones did have a nightmare,” he said. “My concern with him – and I don’t want to criticise him but he is 22 now – is that he has played nearly 100 Premier League games and everyone keeps saying to me and to the rest of the football world, that he is going to be a top player.

“But I keep seeing John Stones make mistake after mistake after mistake.

“I don’t know what’s happening with him at Man City but I don’t think he has improved as much as people would think he has this season.

“If I’m a centre forward, a young guy and I keep on missing chances, I don’t expect to be in the team. Eventually you are going to get left out. I keep seeing Stones making mistakes too often, too many times.”


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Manchester City have held talks with Barcelona over a £100m move for Argentina forward Lionel Messi, 29. (Sun)

City will give Guardiola £250m to spend in order to turn the club into champions again. (Daily Star)

Guardiola will be in the market for a new goalkeeper this summer, as pressure continues to grow on Claudio Bravo, 33. (Daily Mail)


I mean if you can get Messi you get Messi but that's going to be £150m of your £250m rumoured budget gone straight away assuming Barca even consider selling which I doubt they will he'll get a new deal in a few weeks as he always does.

City have got to rebuild from the back the need a keeper, 2 centre backs, left back, right back, holding midfielder & midfielder playmaker before they even think about buying attacking talent they've got enough of that already.

Their transfer strategy in the summer was a complete mess I know Sane is a talent but did they really need to get him now was that £50m or whatever it was in the end not better spent on buying full backs which they've needed for 2 seasons.


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Yaya Toure turned down a €600,000-a-week deal (£520,000) from China during last year's winter transfer window, his agent has told Sky Sports News HQ.

The staggering offer came from Jiangsu Suning, according to Dimitry Seluk, but Toure opted to stay at Manchester City where he is now inside the final six months of his contract.

Toure, recently restored to City's squad after a row between Seluk and Pep Guardiola threatened to exile him until the end of his deal, said this month he is staying at City until the end of the season.

The 33-year-old is in line for a recall to the Champions League squad for the knockout stage, and Seluk told SSNHQ: "Yaya wants to play at the highest level. He's happy at Manchester City. Yaya likes football more than money."

The financial power of the Chinese Super League has already made its mark on the Premier League, with Diego Costa recently unsettled by the offer of a £30m salary, according to Sky sources.

Three other Chelsea players - Ramires, Oscar and John Obi Mikel - did leave Stamford Bridge for the Far East, where former City striker Carlos Tevez is reported to be earning £615,000 every week.

But the Chinese Football Association recently announced new measures aimed at curbing the "irrational investments" of clubs, restricting to three the number of foreign players who can play at any one time.

Those measures in part forced Tianjin Quanjian to end their interest in Costa, who has returned to first-team training at Chelsea.


I get the impression Guardiola is using Toure because he has to not because he wants to his legs have clearly gone and he needs players around him to protect him which to be fair he doesn't get in the same way Carrick does at Utd where Herrera does all his running for him and he sits deep Toure still likes to try and burst forward.

Will be interesting to see if they offer him a new deal my guess is it would be on a reduced salary to reflect his status as a squad player rather than the headline act he was when he signed the original deal.


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I did think Pep would struggle with this league, but I'm sure he'll pull it together. Mind you I also said Klopp would struggle, I thought his team would tire towards the end of the season in this league. No sign of that yet.


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Liverpool are not in europe this surely helps. Spurs have been demoted to Europa aswell but will they have a proper go at Cup? im not sure i think they will prioritise league.

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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I think we can see this season the benefit Liverpool had of almost a season under Klopp last year prepping for this year and the fact they got off to an absolute flier helped.

The european football is a big factor Liverpool have slowed down in the last month as injuries have kicked in plus they've had to cope with midweek games in league cup or the Xmas calender they haven't had that recover time plus injuries/suspension/ACoN stuff means they've had to change the team around.

I think Guardiola maybe under estimated the weaknesses in that squad and has probably realised he can't solve the problems in house with coaching the club need to buy players to do the things he needs his team to do. He also needs to adapt his methods to deal with the more random nature of the premier league they have to cope better with long balls and most importantly winning 2nd balls.

Also, the directors of football needs to be questioned as well as the buying of players has gone horribly wrong ever since that first season under Pellegrini when they got in Fernandinho, Navas, Negredo & I think Jovetic. Since then they've had summers where they've spent fortunes without actually improving the side and Utd have been in a similar situation until this summer.


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Manchester City have completed the signing of Gabriel Jesus from Palmeiras.

The 19-year-old forward is eligible to make his debut against Tottenham on Saturday.

City originally agreed the £27m deal for Jesus in August but the player remained at Palmeiras for the remainder of the Brazilian league season, helping them claim the title in November with a game to spare.

All formalities have now been completed and the teenager could make his debut against Spurs at the Etihad on Saturday, where Pep Guardiola's side will be looking to bounce back from their 4-0 drubbing away to Everton at the weekend.

"I want to win titles and Manchester City is a club that is used to winning," Jesus told the club's official website.

"City is a club that always competes for the title in the competitions it enters, so that was an important factor, and because of the manager, [Pep] Guardiola, and the squad."

The club's director of football, Txiki Begiristain, believes Jesus can fulfil his potential with City.

"Gabriel is a technically gifted player who was chased by some of Europe's biggest clubs and we are delighted he decided to join City," he said.

"He has the potential to become one of the best attacking players in the game and we look forward to watching him develop further here in Manchester.

"I think with Pep Guardiola as manager and the squad we already have here, Jesus has the perfect platform to reach his full potential."


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Frm what i heard MK2 Neymar .. :ohmy:

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
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Sergio Agüero has cast doubt over his future at Manchester City after being left out for a second match in a row in favour of Gabriel Jesus, who scored both goals in a 2-1 win at home to Swansea City on Sunday.

The striker said it would be down to the club to decide in the summer whether to keep him. Senior City officials reacted by privately insisting that Agüero would not be allowed to leave.

Having been left out by the head coach, Pep Guardiola, for Wednesday night’s 4-0 win at West Ham United, Agüero was on the bench as Swansea were beaten by an injury-time winner at the Etihad Stadium.

With Jesusopening the scoring in the first half – before Gylfi Sigurdsson’s 81st-minute equaliser – it was a frustrating day for Agüero, who came on as a late replacement on Sunday but failed to add to his 18 goals for the season.

Asked about his future, the 28-year-old said: “No, no I don’t want to leave. I have to help the team as much as I can in these three months. Afterwards we’ll see what the club wants to do with me. In three years, my contract is up – that’s why I say I’m happy at the club. In these last three months that are left I have to help the club and, as I say, the club will decide if I have a place here or not.

“Sometimes this happens. When you’re on the bench you have to wait for your opportunity. I have three months to do my best and try to help the team and we’ll see what happens with my future. He [Jesus] is a great player. He’s a very young player but he will learn a lot at City and he will have a great future at the club.”

Agüero admitted he could learn from the 19-year-old. “Yes, at the moment I have to watch what he does, to learn, it could be a little bit. I am how I am. I have spent a lot of years in Europe playing the same way.”

Of a meeting Agüero had with Guardiola and the player’s agent recently, the striker said: “It was things to do with the club, nothing strange. Private things that have to stay inside those walls.”

Guardiola said Agüero had taken being left out in the correct manner. “It is perfect, don’t worry about that,” he said. “Of course he wants to play. It must not be easy. I understand that. But Sergio remains one of the most important players in our squad and [with] what we have to do, he will be so, so important. He is going to play a lot of games, with Gabriel and without Gabriel, but today I decide to continue with these three guys [Jesus, Leroy Sané and Raheem Sterling].”

Jesus scored a debut goal at West Ham. Of his contribution against the Swans, Guardiola said: “He made again a lot of things, without the ball, with the ball. We can use him as a third man and give an assist with Kevin [De Bruyne], with David [Silva]. He is a guy in the box with an instinct to score goals. When he played with Sergio [for eight minutes against Tottenham Hotspur] they both played really well. He can run for 90 minutes and the long balls, he can win against taller central defenders. He is 19 years old and we are delighted about what he has done.”h


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They've got a great player in Jesus. Worrying the Iheanacho Jesus and Sane are 19/20/21

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More like Jesus MK 2 ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
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Manchester City striker Sergio Aguero and Arsenal forward Alexis Sanchez, both 28, are being targeted by French champions Paris St-Germain. (Daily Mail)
Real Madrid have also been alerted by Aguero's shock admission that his future is uncertain at Manchester City. (Daily Express)

Manchester City will not sell Aguero for anything less than £80m. (The Times - subscription required)

Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola will try to sign Borussia Dortmund striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, 27, if Aguero does leave the club. (Sun


I'm amazed no one came up with the Aguero for Sanchez swap deal.

I think there are doubt from Guardiola about Aguero fitting in his system but I'd still be surprised if he went


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They better start playing him if they want £80m for him. 24 months left on his contract at the end of this season

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