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 Post subject: Re: Sunderland Wundlund
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:32 pm 
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Sunderland need to "rebuild" having "lost their identity", according to the club's chief executive Martin Bain.

The Black Cats are bottom of the Premier League, with two points after eight games, and are odds-on with bookmakers to be relegated.

"It's probably lost its identity at times trying to be a club it's not," Bain told the club website.

"The job is to build, almost rebuild. It's apparent that we've got a journey to embark upon."

Bain took over as chief executive in July, replacing Margaret Byrne, who resigned in the wake of Sunderland winger Adam Johnson being found guilty of sexual activity with a 15-year-old.

One of his first tasks was to recruit ex-Everton and Manchester United boss David Moyes after Sam Allardyce left the club to become England's manager.

Sunderland avoided relegation by two points last season and also struggled the previous campaign, when they finished 16th.

"We can't change the past, but we can change the future," said Bain of his work with Moyes. "From both our perspectives it's about rebuilding."

Bain also said the club will have to be more savvy in the transfer market.

"This club has to get better at buying and selling," he said. "Like it or lump it, we should be looking at bringing players to this club and selling them for a greater value.

"We have to look at acquiring players at a younger age, too."


To many players earning to much money who don't give a f*ck about Sunderland as a club is the problem imo the fact they then keep changing managers every 12 months means the players know if they down tools they'll get this guy sacked and a fresh start under the new guy.

I wouldn't be surprised if behind the scenes there's a bit of a booze/party culture lots of British players who are seeing out careers on good money maybe think it doesn't really matter how they play so it's not taken seriously.

They need some guys in that squad who care about Sunderland and make sure that the new guys who come in are aware of how much the club means to the fans and that it isn't a free ride.


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 Post subject: Re: Sunderland Wundlund
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:54 pm 
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David Moyes admitted he deserved to be sent to the stands after Sunderland tumbled out of the EFL Cup at Southampton.

The Black Cats boss was furious after his struggling side were denied a late penalty when Maya Yoshida brought down Victor Anichebe in the area.

But the Scot’s industrial language towards fourth official James Adcock earned him his marching orders as Sunderland crashed out to Sofiane Boufal’s strike.

“I was sent off for leaving my box and swearing at the fourth official,” Moyes said.

“The problem was he chased me down the touchline. I swore at him and I shouldn’t have done so I deserved to be sent off.”

Moyes was in no doubt about the late penalty claim which angered him so much but was waved away by ref Chris Kavanagh.

“When you see it again it’s a stonewaller, no question,” he added. “Inside the box Yoshida fouls Victor, he comes across him, and it should have been a definite penalty awarded.”

Sunderland’s only two wiins this season came in this competition and they remain bottom of the Premier League, but Moyes is confident they are close to turning the corner.

“We didn’t deserve to lose, that’s for sure,” he said.

“Our luck’s out, but it will change. The performances are getting better and that will lead to goals and to results. Our last couple of performances have merited more.”


He'll do well to make it to Xmas at this rate.

That clubs got a cancer within it that relegation might not even resolve.


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 Post subject: Re: Sunderland Wundlund
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:35 pm 
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Sunderland’s Paddy McNair will miss the rest of the season after rupturing his anterior cruciate ligament.

McNair, who can play in defence or midfield, suffered the injury in the 42nd minute of Saturday’s 3-0 home win over Hull as he closed down Curtis Davies, although he did not come off until the 88th minute.

David Moyes said: “We won’t see him again this season and all we can hope is getting him right for the start of next season.”

The 21-year-old has made 12 appearances for Sunderland since joining from Manchester United in the summer. He has scored two goals, both in the 2-1 EFL Cup win at QPR in September.

“I think he’d just started to find his way in the Premier League – even though he had experience at Manchester United – and the games he was having were bringing him on and giving him confidence,” Moyes said.

“He probably won’t have his operation for over a week because he’s got a cut on his knee and they can’t operate while there is an open wound, so we have to wait until that heals so it might be a week or two.”

The setback comes at a time when Sunderland Premier League campaign has begun to pick up. The victory over Hull was the second win in a row, who had failed to take maximum points in any of their previous 10 games.

McNair will also be absent for Northern Ireland’s World Cup qualifier against Norway in March. Messages of support for McNair were posted on Twitter from the official accounts of Northern Ireland and Manchester United.

The message from his national team said: “Paddy McNair has suffered a cruciate ligament injury & is expected to miss the rest of the season. Get well soon Paddy!”

United’s message said: “Everyone at MUFC wishes you a speedy recovery, Paddy!”



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 Post subject: Re: Sunderland Wundlund
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:16 pm 
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Sunderland say they will not be signing Yann M'Vila in January after being told the French midfielder no longer wants to re-join the Premier League club.

Sunderland said they agreed a three-and-a-half-year deal with M'Vila but "decided not to enforce the contract".

M'Vila, 26, made 37 appearances for the Black Cats on a season-long loan last term before returning to Rubin Kazan.

"Any player we bring to Sunderland must be wholly committed," said chief executive Martin Bain.

M'Vila missed just one Premier League game as he helped Sam Allardyce's side avoid relegation last term, with Black Cats fans hopeful the club would sign him on a permanent deal last summer.

However, the move failed to materialise on transfer deadline day in September, leading to M'Vila posting an Instagram message - which was later deleted - saying he had tried contacting the club to push the deal through.

M'Vila returned to the Russian club when his loan deal expired, making nine appearances in the Russian Premier League this season.

Sunderland had not announced they had agreed a deal to re-sign the player until they revealed on Wednesday it had fallen through.

"I was contacted this week by Yann M'Vila's representatives, who advised that the player no longer wishes to join Sunderland," added Bain.

"There was a three-and-a-half-year agreement in place, however after discussions with the manager we have decided not to enforce the contract."


So understanding this correctly

They agreed a deal after deadline day for him to come in January
M'Villa has now said he no longer wishes to join the club
Sunderland have agreed to cancel the arrangement

In other news Watmore is out for the season they'll miss him talented young kid hope he makes a full recovery.


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 Post subject: Re: Sunderland Wundlund
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:58 pm 
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David Moyes might have turned down the chance to take charge of Sunderland last July had he known there would be so little money to spend on players.

Martin Bain, the club’s chief executive, recently acknowledged that the manager would have “very limited” funds during next month’s transfer window as Ellis Short, the owner, attempts to reduce a £140m debt while keeping his £73m wage bill within Premier League remuneration cap rules.

“Managing Sunderland always had an appeal to me but, if I’d known about the financial situation, I’d have needed to look at it in a different way,” conceded Moyes, whose bottom-placed team are at home to Watford on Saturday. “I’d have had to have thought a lot more about taking the job. I didn’t see us having no money in January. I’m disappointed I won’t be able to do some work in January and build on what we’ve done so far.”

When Moyes succeeded Sam Allardyce, he remained unaware Short was willing to sell Sunderland in the near future. “It’s a bigger challenge than I thought because of the situation the club are in and the situation I’ve been put in,” said the former Everton, Manchester United and Real Sociedad manager. “It’s a bigger job than I expected. I didn’t know the club could be going up for sale. I wasn’t made aware of it before.

“That would probably be what I’d say is the difficulty. I knew what we were spending in the summer was small in comparison to other clubs – and I said that to the owner but I didn’t see us having no money now. I hoped we’d get things done in January but that has shown itself not to be the case. But I’m going to move on. I’ve dealt with it in my head and we’re getting on with it.”

Moyes’s downbeat comments make quite a contrast to his optimistic message to Sunderland’s website on taking charge five months ago. “Martin Bain and Ellis have been terrific,” he enthused at the time. “They’ve given me some guarantees and reassurances about what we can do because we’ve got a big club here that we need to take forward. Celebrating staying up can’t be the goal. I’ve been really impressed by the owner and his guarantees to make sure that we keep improving.”

What particularly puzzles the Scot now is that Short had seemed so delighted to finally recruit him after four failed previous attempts. “I find that difficult,” said Moyes. “When I joined I was saying I’ve come here to improve the club. I don’t want to be here and us be a team at the bottom. This club has the infrastructure, the stadium, incredible support, some of the biggest crowds in Europe. That’s the appeal of Sunderland. And I knew the owner had wanted me for a long time.”

Many managers in similar positions would be strongly tempted to quit but Moyes has resolved to battle on. “I’ve not been tempted to walk because I’ve seen some steel from the players, a belief in what we’re doing,” he said. “The players didn’t know anything about the club’s situation either and we need to give them a lift. There have been some shoots of improvement but now we need to get in a huddle and stick together.”

It does not help that an already injury-ravaged squad has now lost Jan Kirchhoff, a key midfielder, for some months with a serious knee injury but Moyes remains inspired by Bain’s unstinting support. “I’ve a lot of respect for the chief executive, who was big and brave enough to say it how it is to the supporters and everyone here,” he said.

He hopes to repay such honesty by creating something of a siege mentality. “We’ve got some serious injuries and we’re very short, particularly in central midfield, but we have to say: ‘Let’s pull together and give 100%,’” Moyes said. “Patch yourself up whether you’re injured or not and get out.Sometimes that can galvanise you.”

“There’s frustration and disappointment but I’m going to stand up, stick my chest out and get on with it. I’m going to fight and I expect everyone else at the club to do the same.”

Even so, there is recognition that, in the current context, survival would be comparable to winning a trophy. “Staying up would be a good achievement,” he said, with considerable understatement. “Other managers have done it here but my task might be slightly harder.”


Already getting his excuses in

Guess this means we won't be dumping Felliani & Januzaj on them in the summer


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 Post subject: Re: Sunderland Wundlund
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:59 am 
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Sunderland’s hopes of avoiding relegation appear to have been dealt a significant blow after the goalkeeper Jordan Pickford sustained a serious looking knee injury during the team’s Boxing Day defeat at Manchester United.

Pickford’s precise prognosis will be confirmed by a specialist but initial assessments from Sunderland’s medical staff indicate the England Under-21 goalkeeper, who has undergone scans, could be sidelined for at least three months.

It remains unclear whether the 22-year-old will require surgery but David Moyes will be alarmed at losing a player who has been in outstanding form for the struggling side this season.

Pickford is likely to be replaced by his understudy, Vito Mannone, at Burnley on New Year’s Eve and at home to Liverpool on Monday but his injury may disappoint Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United. They have all been watching Sunderland’s young goalkeeper and may have been prepared to bid for him during the January transfer window.

Although Pickford – who took over from Mannone in August after the Italian fractured an elbow – is contracted to Sunderland until 2020, Moyes was believed to be open to selling him in January, providing he could be loaned back to them for the remainder of the season.

With Sunderland £140m in debt and their £73m wage bill leaving them perilously close to breaching Premier League wage cap rules, Moyes will need to sell before he can buy next month and there is little doubt the squad needs strengthening.

A spate of injuries – the majority affecting knees – have not helped his cause. Duncan Watmore and Paddy McNair are already ruled out until next season while Jan Kirchhoff, Lee Cattermole and Lynden Gooch will not return until mid-March at the very earliest.


Been a mild glimmer of positive news in a terrible season


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:47 pm 
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Sunderland manager David Moyes is hoping to sign out-of-favour Everton pair Darron Gibson and Bryan Oviedo before Tuesday's transfer deadline.

Left-back Oviedo, 26, and 29-year-old midfielder Gibson have been fringe figures under Everton boss Ronald Koeman this season.

Steven Pienaar, Victor Anichebe and Joleon Lescott, who played under Moyes when he was Everton manager, have already moved to Wearside this season.

Sunderland play Tottenham on Tuesday.

Gibson has made one appearance for Everton this season - as a substitute against Yeovil in the EFL Cup - while Costa Rican Oviedo has played seven times.

Another former Everton player, Jack Rodwell, who Moyes sold to Manchester City before he was transferred to Sunderland, was already at The Stadium Of Light.


If they can get Howard in goal he's basically got the old gang back together :laugh:


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