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 Post subject: Re: The General Chelsea Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:59 pm 
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Would be a shame if Costa went I quite enjoy watching him. Would be a big loss for Chelsea


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:35 am 
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Conte reportedly shouted "Go to China" ... I hope he leaves in Jan :D

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:49 pm 
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Diego Costa's Chelsea team-mates have urged the 28-year-old striker to apologise over the dispute that saw him left out of Saturday's 3-0 win at Leicester. (Telegraph)

The Brazil-born Spain international has told friends he has no interest in moving to China, despite rumours of a lucrative offer. (ESPN)

Chelsea manager Antonio Conte is interested in replacing Costa with Real Madrid's 24-year-old Spain forward Alvaro Morata. (Sun)

The Premier League leaders will try to sign Bayern Munich forward Thomas Muller, 27, for £75m if Costa leaves Chelsea. (Sunday Express)

Blues owner Roman Abramovich is adamant Costa will stay at Stamford Bridge. (Daily Mirror)


He doesn't owe them any loyalty they bought him out of Atletico so you can't go crying when it comes back to you.

I don't think he will go I think they'll force him to stay for rest of the season


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He's one league goal away from losing me a bet, so I hope he goes to China!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:45 pm 
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Antonio Conte has no plans to hold clear-the-air talks with Diego Costa and the onus will be on the Spain forward in training this week to prove he warrants a swift restoration to the Chelsea side for the visit of Hull City on Sunday.

Costa, the subject of interest from the Chinese Super League club Tianjin Quanjian, who would apparently be prepared to pay him £30m a year, said he was suffering from a back injury last week and duly became embroiled in a row with Chelsea fitness staff. He was excluded from the squad for the game at Leicester City on Saturday. He has since been pursuing his own rehabilitation schedule and worked outside at Cobham on Monday, as he did the previous day, while the rest of the first team and management staff enjoyed 48 hours off following the 3-0 win at the champions.

Although there is an acceptance the striker may have been suffering some discomfort in his back, the club believe the situation came to a head only as a result of the emergence of that interest from China and, although they will not countenance selling the division’s joint-leading scorer mid-season, it appears increasingly likely he will depart Stamford Bridge in the summer. The events of the past week have ensured their original plan to secure Costa to new terms – his deal expires in 2019 – has effectively been abandoned.

Yet conviction remains at the club that Costa can be reintegrated into the team for the rest of this campaign, in an effort to ensure the issue does not derail the team’s pursuit of a second Premier League title in three years. Key to that, however, will be the player demonstrating an improved attitude and a willingness to fight to regain his first-team place.

Conte does not intend to instigate discussions with the player to smooth that return to the fold and will merely seek evidence of a positive reaction in training. The manager has always made clear to his players that their prospects of making the team hinge on impressing with work-rate and commitment in training in the buildup to a fixture and Costa, who has been urged to apologise to Conte by fellow senior members of the side, must now earn his recall.

The club’s medical staff are due to assess the striker on Tuesday and, if he is passed fit after the back trouble, he will rejoin his team-mates as they begin preparations for Sunday’s game. Costa, 28, will have to convince the manager that he deserves to play ahead of Willian, Eden Hazard or Pedro Rodríguez, all outstanding in that emphatic win at the King Power Stadium which stretched Chelsea’s lead at the top of the Premier League to seven points.

Costa had agitated for a return to Atlético Madrid over the summer but, having been persuaded to stay, has 14 Premier League goals this season. He had originally been omitted from the squad for the fixture at Leicester following a row with a fitness coach last Tuesday after staff aired doubts over the severity of his back problem. His relationship with Conte, who had supported his medical staff’s assessment, were strained further after another heated exchange the following day.

That left him working on his own at Cobham, and later than the rest of the squad, last week and over the weekend, albeit he has been complying with the rehabilitation programme stipulated by the medical staff. He did take to social media on the eve of the Leicester game to publish a picture on Instagram alongside the message “Come on Chelsea”, with that post immediately ‘liked’ by the Chelsea captain John Terry and the midfielder Cesc Fàbregas. That pair were among the senior players encouraging Costa to knuckle down and put thoughts of a lucrative move to China on hold until the summer.

Conte made a point of stressing his leading scorer’s absence at Leicester had been born of the back complaint, but did not deny the rift which flared over the issue. He claimed publicly to have no knowledge of interest from China in the player, though Chelsea are believed to have been aware for around a month of Tianjin Quanjian’s eagerness to secure the player for as much as £80m.

Tianjin Quanjian’s ambition will not be dampened even in the wake of the Chinese Football Association reducing the number of foreign players who can appear for a club at any one time from four to three as they seek to curb “irrational” spending, and their intent is understood to have been lodged with the player’s representative, Jorge Mendes.

It remains to be seen whether the Costa issue influences Chelsea’s movements in the transfer market this month, with their own interest in Swansea City’s Fernando Llorente established. Certainly, should Costa depart as anticipated in the summer then securing a replacement will become a priority at the end of the season, with Everton’s Romelu Lukaku, Christian Benteke at Crystal Palace and the Real Madrid forward Álvaro Morata to come into their thinking.


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 Post subject: Re: The General Chelsea Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:15 pm 
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It was in November 2015 when Patrick Bamford confirmed the news that left the footballing world captivated.

“We’ve actually got a Chelsea loan WhatsApp group,” he said, before adding that the constant updates would often leave his phone battery drained. New faces would come, old ones would go, the wheel would keep on turning.

The volume of messages sent between Chelsea’s eclectic selection of loanees will never have been higher than over the past month. Three more players joined the 37 that were loaned out in the summer; of that 37, seven have been recalled since December, three of whom have already been repackaged and sent off to new temporary homes.

The remaining four will enjoy and endure differing fates. Antonio Conte spoke of how Nathan Ake had “shown he deserves” a chance at his parent club following his return from Bournemouth, while Charly Musonda may receive similar opportunities after impressing at Real Betis. Kenedy’s loan spell with Watford was curtailed due to injury, with the Brazilian continuing his recovery at Stamford Bridge.

As for Bamford, it is unlikely he forced any of Michael Hector, Victorien Angban or Danilo Pantic to mute the conversation by spending his weekend bragging about his future to his fellow loanees. Five years, six separate loan spells, 386 Premier League minutes and zero Premier League goals after joining Chelsea, the 23-year-old has finally outstayed his welcome.

It took until Monday afternoon for either Burnley or Chelsea to pass official comment on his return to Stamford Bridge, such has been the striker’s fall from grace from Bright Young Thing to any old thing.

“They have decided to take him back and, it looks like, to go elsewhere,” said Sean Dyche, bidding farewell to a player on the verge of a move to Middlesbrough, a player whose 33 Premier League minutes for Burnley follow 99 at Palace and 236 at Norwich. Each move was scoreless, each almost pointless.

“It’s not necessarily because of him,” added the Clarets manager, but for Bamford, this is a familiar story of disappointment. “He has had every chance here,” was Alan Pardew’s defence, while Alex Neil explained that “you can take the horse to water but they have to show the determination and will to prove themselves”. Each manager could not find a place for Bamford in their side; Bamford failed to convince them otherwise on every occasion.

It is in direct juxtaposition with the case of Ake. The Dutchman did not start any of Watford’s first eight Premier League games last season, and his first start at Bournemouth came in the club’s 12th game of the season. Yet his excellent performances when given an opportunity mean he is welcomed home with open arms, while Bamford is shuffled through the back door once more.


The winner, as ever, is Chelsea. The Blues signed Bamford for £1.5m from Nottingham Forest in 2012, a move which many felt was too early in his career. Five years later, he may depart for more than six times his original fee, and he will leave the club without even making a first-team appearance. A profit of up to £8.5m, and they have done little of the truly hard work.

Chelsea’s propensity for a loan deal is well-documented, but they do appear to have cracked the market. Any player who impresses will be rewarded with a club one rung further up the ladder – Bamford went from League One MK Dons to Derby and Middlesbrough in the Championship before floundering in the top flight. Any player who cannot make the grade is either subjected to loan purgatory – the Marko Marin effect, currently being experienced by Lucas Piazon or Christian Atsu, both currently on their fifth loan deals – or they are sold on for profit. It is a controversial and oft-criticised business model, the antithesis to what both Liverpool and Tottenham preach. The claim is that it can stall careers, if not completely derail them. But if players accept and embrace the system, the rewards are fair.

Those who do succeed are no longer blocked from reaching the holy grail of the first team as they were under Jose Mourinho: Victor Moses, he of three modest Premier League spells, is a key fixture under Conte; Nathaniel Chalobah, with six loans to his name, is now a valued member of the squad; Ake and Musonda bring depth and options; Lewis Baker and Tammy Abraham have earned opportunities to prove themselves at a higher level. And if Bamford is a footballer with an eight-figure value, then what of Juan Cuadrado or Bertrand Traore?

Next off the conveyor belt will surely be Andreas Christensen. The Dane is in the midst of his second season-long loan spell at Borussia Monchengladbach, where he is a guaranteed starter. Most clubs would have to pay a premium for a 20-year-old international centre-half with Bundesliga and Champions League experience; Chelsea will find one ready-made and gift-wrapped on their doorstep in the summer.

As for Bamford, this is not so much a hard career reset as a necessary dose of reality: he is as much a victim of his own shortcomings as anything else. Chelsea’s loan system will be blamed, but his case is proof that it works, just as with Ake. In either instance, the Blues turn a profit or gain a valued player. The difference between the two fates is the balance between talent and commitment, one which Ake struck but Bamford never did. Don’t hate the game just because the player cannot play it.



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 Post subject: Re: The General Chelsea Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:42 pm 
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He's back in training with the first team but he's expected to leave in summer either to China or back to Atletico Madrid made it clear he doesn't want to sign a new contract unless they offer him China wages

Guessing he wouldn't expect those wages to go back to a Madrid but guessing he's done with England


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:55 am 
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He will be off to Ateltico (providing their banned gets lifted) and greizman to united ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:07 am 
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Chelsea have approached Middlesbrough over the availability of winger Adama Traore, according to Sky sources.

Traore joined Boro from Aston Villa on the final day of the summer transfer window, but has since attracted the attention of Chelsea boss Antonio Conte because of his pace.

The 20-year-old, who started his career at Barcelona, has featured 14 times in the Premier League for Aitor Karanka's side this season.

Conte is looking to bolster his squad this month having allowed midfielders Oscar and John Obi Mikel to leave Stamford Bridge for the Chinese Super League.

Meanwhile, Chelsea and Middlesbrough remain in advanced talks over a deal for forward Patrick Bamford.

Bamford spent the first half of the season on loan at Burnley, but failed to establish himself as a first-team regular under Sean Dyche and was recalled to Chelsea last weekend.

The 23-year-old scored 19 goals in 44 appearances while on loan at Boro during the 2014-15 campaign and Sky sources understand Karanka is keen to bring him back to Riverside to bolster a side that has netted only 17 times in the Premier League.


I mean if somene can teach him the bit where you have an end product he's going to be a hell of a player as he's so fast with the ball at his feet and he's also a very powerful guy as well he's built like a the 100m sprinters we saw before Bolt.

Seems to me like he'd be another one they'd be putting on their loan market merry go round he'd spend the next 3 years getting bounced around before we saw him in a chelsea shirt.


As for Costa I agree I think he'll be off to Atletico in the summer it's where he wants to be and where he wanted to be this year Chelsea will use that money to invest in a new striker will be interesting to see where they go will the go back for Lukaku this time?


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Antonio Conte is ready to “risk” his job if Chelsea win the Premier League title.

Claudio Ranieri was sacked by Leicester on Thursday night after winning the 2015-16 title, while Jose Mourinho left Chelsea in December 2015, seven months after winning the Premier League.

Conte’s Chelsea are eight points clear entering this weekend’s fixtures and play at home to Swansea on Saturday.

Conte, Mourinho’s permanent successor who started his job last July, said: “First of all I think that it’s important to finish this season in the best way and if we are able to reach this dream – for me, for the players – I’m ready to face this risk.

“There are 13 games until the end of the season and we want to stay at the top of the table. It won’t be easy, but I’m ready to take this risk (if it) means we won the league.”

Conte laughed off the prospect of being sacked, as he did earlier in this season before Chelsea won 13 successive Premier League games to take pole position in the title race.

“If you remember very well I was already sacked this season with the bookmakers,” Conte added.

“I was lucky to keep the right concentration and to continue the work.”


Be interesting to see how they cope with Europe again next season they either need the loan guys back to deepen the squad or they need to sign 4 or 5 players in the summer


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