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 Post subject: Re: A Chinese Revolution
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:03 pm 
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Oscar £60m transfer fee plus £400k a week wages

Tevez apparently been offered €40m a season to go to Chine

Mikel also could be on his way

Some serious wedge being spent again in China


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Some serious talent going in there ... One club prepared to give Messi 100million per annum ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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At the moment they're hoovering up squad players from clubs for big fees but the game changer will be when they tempt a player who's first choice at a top club to make the jump.

The only thing that will stop this league is I don't think European fans will ever be that interested in it but if they can attract the Asian fans and take them away from the European clubs that might hurt them as these markets are huge to sponsors


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I made the point last year about commercial damag EPL club like manutd may face who have huge following in asia .. Chinese will have their own superstar team and they would rather buy merchandise of their team than buy zlatan shirt ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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Didier Drogba was told once that in China they considered him to be a reincarnation of an ancient god. They called him “The Almighty” and he always remembers the reaction on his first training session after following Nicolas Anelka to the bags of gold at Shanghai Shenhua. Their new colleagues would “just stare in wide-eyed amazement at some of our moves, what we did in practice, how we played within a team”. Both players were drifting towards the end of their playing careers, but they were still vastly superior to all their team-mates.

Which is probably what you would expect given that China’s solitary appearance in a World Cup came in 2002, losing all three games without scoring a single goal, and we are talking about the nation that is 83rd in Fifa’s latest world rankings, directly below Antigua and Barbuda and one above the Faroe Islands, whose combined population could fit into any Shanghai suburb with room to spare.

It is certainly easy to understand why, after Graziano Pellè signed for Shandong Luneng, one football magazine carried a spoof interview from the Italian expressing his joy to be joining “what I presume to be a football club in China or thereabouts”. Pellè will apparently earn £34m in two and a half years, which breaks down to £260,000 a week, reputedly putting him in the top five best-paid footballers in the world, while leaving the firm impression that whoever runs Shandong hadn’t noticed the second L in his surname.

Remember when Juninho joined Middlesbrough back in the 1990s in one of those transfers that seemed to shape English football? “Juninho will need to learn only three words of English: pound, thank you and bye‑bye,” Jan Aage Fjortoft, one of his new team-mates, said at the time. It is the same now in China and it did raise a smile when Ramires, on his way out of Chelsea earlier this year, insisted the huge financial incentives had not underpinned his transfer to the Chinese Super League. No, presumably every young boy from Rio de Janeiro grows up dreaming of playing for Jiangsu Suning, in the nation that has just lost a World Cup qualifier at home to Syria – a country, you might imagine, that has other things on its mind than putting out a football team.

Oscar, an increasingly peripheral figure at Chelsea, is the latest to be tempted and, however much his impending £60m transfer to Shanghai SIPG is dressed up, it is difficult not to think it deeply unsatisfying to see someone of his age abandoning any real sense of ambition and, without wishing to be too cruel, a certain amount of respectability. At 25, he is approaching what should be the greatest years of his career, even if it seems apparent they will not be with his current club. He is also exceedingly rich already, most people would assume, after four and a half years on Chelsea’s payroll, and surely talented enough to attract potential buyers from Europe’s top leagues. Good luck to him, I suppose, but however many noughts are added to his salary, I do wonder how much job satisfaction there can be for a footballer with his gifts at a level several rungs down even from Major League Soccer.

If that sounds slightly harsh, the reality is we are probably just going to have to get used to players heading that way, judging by the mind-boggling amounts on offer, and presumably it won’t be too long before a high‑profile English footballer is added to the number.

Wayne Rooney has already had one offer and, though it didn’t get very far at all, he hasn’t completely ruled out the idea of China even if, money aside, he hasn’t heard too much that is appealing. Rooney’s advisers went on a fact‑finding mission to China last spring and reported back that the pitches were appalling, the standard as bad as everyone thought, and the referees even worse, in a league blackened by tales of match-fixing and bribery.

Rooney might also remember Manchester United’s pre-season friendly against FC Shenzhen in Macau in 2007 and what came out, four years later, about the referee taking 100,000 Hong Kong dollars (roughly £8,000) to fix the coin toss. Yet the key detail is what a climb-down it would be, football-wise, for someone whose career has been spent at the high end of the Premier League. The money is sensational but, to remember the old Rodriguez song, a monkey in silk is still a monkey.

The difference between Rooney and Oscar is that one is skidding towards the end of a rapidly decelerating career whereas the other should be five or six years away from the point where he might be thinking about one last payday. That is the shame of it all, why Jamie Carragher has called it embarrassing and why, unless there is a late change of heart, it feels like such a waste that a super-rich footballer would follow the yuan rather than stay in Europe and play in the competitions that really matter to the people in his profession.

Yaya Touré is often accused of being driven by ego and money – mostly, it ought to be said, because of a particularly dislikable agent, rather than the player himself – but it is not widely known the Manchester City midfielder turned his back on one offer from China last summer that would have earned him, after tax, £360,000 per week. Touré simply decided he was already an extremely wealthy man, that he would earn huge wages anyway and that, at the age of 33, he still wanted to be involved in a competitive league rather than one where its star imports counted their dosh but, in sporting terms, found little satisfaction.

Rio Ferdinand was the same when he left Manchester United and had money-spinning offers from teams in China, the Gulf and the United States. He opted for QPR and hopefully Alexis Sánchez will also decide that life in London is preferable for a category-A footballer now he is a target of China. Sánchez could feasibly earn £400,000 a week but it would be disappointing, in the extreme, if it turns out we have misjudged him and he decides the higher salary would be better for him, career-wise, than earning millions with Arsenal instead.

To give him his due, there is nothing to suggest that is the case, but not everyone thinks the same, plainly. Alex Teixiera could have moved to Liverpool before pitching up at Jiangsu Suning. Gervinho, Ezequiel Lavezzi, Demba Ba, Papiss Cissé, Jackson Martínez and Hulk all now play in the country where Paul Gascoigne once had a two-week trial at one club – “The name escapes me now,” he wrote, rather brilliantly, in his autobiography – and a brief spell at Gansu Tianma.

In Oscar’s case, he has clearly been shunted to the edges at Chelsea since Antonio Conte took control, and the natural comeback in these kind of debates is to ask how many people in any walk of life would say no to trebling their wages – for the Brazilian, increasing his salary to £350,000 a week.

All the same, Arsène Wenger made a good point recently, discussing Arsenal’s contract negotiations with Sanchez, when he said the Premier League’s top players were hardly on a pittance anyway and needed to be careful about getting their priorities in the wrong order. “I believe personally, and maybe I am a bit naive, that it’s more about getting to meet the player’s needs … the way the club has values, the way the club has ambition, the way the club respects the players,” Wenger said. “The money is good everywhere for everybody.”

Maybe I am a bit naive, too, but I cannot help agree. Oscar is too good for China. It is no place for any footballer with genuine ambition and surely, if he has to leave Chelsea, he could find another club that allows him to be a multimillionaire, with everything done for him and all the superstar’s accessories, in a country where the sport is not a national embarrassment.

China’s defeat to Syria in October finished with swarms of people protesting on the streets, just as they did in 2013 after the national team lost 5-1 against a Thai youth side and their Spanish coach, José Antonio Camacho, resigned in disgrace. China’s president, Xi Jinping, has made it clear he wants to start the country’s rise as a football power, meaning the sport is now a compulsory part of the national curriculum and tens of thousands of new pitches are being created, but it will take many years before they catch up. The wages are out of this world but they probably have to be because any top-level player heading to China might just find this is the point when the rest of football stops taking their careers seriously.


I think South Americans only leave home for the money so where they get it from doesn't really bother them they play for the national team for the love and play for the clubs for the money.

It's a shame to see Oscar not try his luck at another top European club but for the sort of money he's being offered who can blame him


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 Post subject: Re: A Chinese Revolution
PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:20 am 
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Tevez apparently offered 60 mollion per annim and as per Boca dorecyor dource he is close to leaving... Mikel also in talks ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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£60m? That can't be legit it's over £1m a week fool. China needs to f*ck off if they're offering that sort of wage.

Edit: That was meant to say FCOL not an insult at Pak.

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What currency was that offer in Pak?

The reports I heard were he was being offered 40m euro a year to go and play in China which is approx £700k a week.

I don't really care for now if they want to take all these hired guns to go and play in their league which I don't care about the only thing that will become an issue is when agents start using these salaries to benchmark their clients wage demands in Europe.

The key move for them will be taking a player a top European Club doesn't want to lose as currently all they're doing is dumping deadwood at sky high prices you can't help but think dodgy deals involving dodgy agents are going on apparently our old friend Kia Joorabchian is well connected in China and is involved in a lot of these deals. He's got close links to Chelsea which is why they're able to dump a lot of players over there currently.


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Well it was on Goal but i dont remember the currency .. But its crazy market and most fringes paradise as they can probably earn triple of what they earn now .. Messi 100 million per annum was also making news couple of days ago ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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£615,000-a-week!

Carlos Tevez came across as an emotional wreck on Sunday as he bid farewell to Boca Juniors fans at the Bombanera.

Boca Juniors beat Colon 4-1 on Sunday, Tevez claimed the second goal for Boca, a week after scoring two in the Superclasico derby against River Plate.

The Boca-Colon clash was billed as Boca’s last opportunity to keep Tevez at the club, where he grew up and the one he admits to supporting like a fan.

Tevez bids farewell

Despite a pitch invader falling at his feet, banners in the crowd and hashtags on social media, Tevez returned to the pitch at full time in what looks to be a clear farewell.

Tevez is expected to sign for Shanghai Shenhua for 615,000 pounds a week, some time in the coming days.

Boca have already received an 80 million dollar offer from Shanghai Shenhua for Tevez, which is simply too good to turn down for the Argentinean giants.

The former Manchester United, Manchester City and Juventus striker will become the highest paid player on the planet.

Next best is set to be Oscar, with the best players of this generation, Leo Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in third and fourth place. See the full top 10 list below from the Daily Mail.

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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Chelsea have announced they have agreed terms with Shanghai SIPG for the permanent transfer of midfielder Oscar.

The 25-year-old will join the Chinese Super League side at the beginning of the January transfer window after four-and-a-half years with the Blues.

During that time the Brazil international has won the Premier League, Europa League and League Cup but, more recently, he has found his chances limited under new boss Antonio Conte.

A fee has not been announced by the Premier League side but the deal is understood to be around £52million, with Oscar reportedly earning £400,000 a week.

A statement on Chelsea’s official website read: “We thank Oscar for his wonderful service and wish him the very best of luck for the future.”

Oscar will join former Chelsea boss Andre Villas-Boas at Shanghai SIPG and is the latest big name to move to China.

Ex-Blues striker Demba Ba is at Shanghai Shenhua while Graziano Pelle swapped Southampton for Shandong Luneng in July for a reported £13million.

Ramires, Gervinho, Hulk and Ezequiel Lavezzi have also been tempted to head to the Far East and more could follow in January.


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Transfer sum are outrageous 80million for Tevez .. soon they will break Neymar Pogba transfer record ..

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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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DEAL DONE for Carlito!!

71m transfer fee, 615k per week in wages

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DEAL DONE for Carlito!!

71m transfer fee, 615k per week in wages


Boca must be laughing that sorts them out for years and he'll be back as soon as that contract runs down.


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Carlos Tevez is the latest high-profile international player to join the Chinese Super League with Shanghai Shenhua confirming the signing of the Argentina striker from his boyhood club Boca Juniors on Thursday.

“Shanghai Greenland Shenhua FC reached a transfer agreement with Argentina Club Atletico Boca Juniors. Carlos Alberto Tevez is officially joined Shanghai Shenhua,” the club said in a statement on their website.

Although no financial details of the deal were released, reports have suggested that the Chinese club paid €84m (£71.6m) for Tevez, who returned to Argentina last year after spells in England and Italy.

That hefty price tag would make Tevez the world’s sixth most expensive player, behind Paul Pogba, Gareth Bale, Cristiano Ronaldo, Gonzalo Higuaín and Neymar.

Tevez is also in line to become the sport’s highest paid player with the striker reportedly earning around £615,000 per week on a two-year contract with Shanghai Shenhua.

The 32-year-old is the second big-money arrival in China’s biggest city in less than a week after the Brazilian midfielder Oscar joined local rivals Shanghai SIPG from Chelsea in a deal believed to be worth £52m.

Graziano Pellè, Ezequiel Lavezzi and Jackson Martínez are all recent arrivals in China, while the Shanghai SIPG manager André Villas-Boas is also on a lucrative contract after replacing Sven Goran-Eriksson.

Tevez, who played for West Ham United, Manchester United, Manchester City and Juventus during a decade in Europe after leaving Boca for Brazil’s Corinthians in 2005, ended his second spell with the Argentinian club on a high.

Having helped the club win the league title last year, Tevez starred in a 4-2 win over arch-rivals River Plate in the superclasíco this month, a victory that lifted Boca into first place in the championship.

Tevez will team up with other high-profile internationals at the club, including the Senegalese striker Demba Ba, the Nigerian forward Obafemi Martins and the Colombian midfielder Fredy Guarín.

Despite a highly-successful club career, Tevez has failed to light up the international stage, having scored 13 goals in 76 appearances for Argentina. He did, however, play a pivotal role in the country winning gold at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens.

Boca Juniors offered Tevez their best wishes in a statement announcing his departure, which included the message: “Good luck Carlitos. You will always be in our hearts.”

Shanghai Shenhua, who appointed Gus Poyet as manager last month, finished fourth in the 2016 Chinese Super League, which ran from March to the end of October, 16 points behind champions Guangzhou Evergrande.


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Jorge Mendes reveals Chinese Super League have made €300m bid for Cristiano Ronaldo.

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The Chinese are coming, and they’re taking superstar footballers with them.

Almost from nowhere, the Chinese Super League has sprung onto the footballing landscape like a bat out of hell, and it’s intent on leaving its mark.

With a seemingly bottomless bag of cash thanks to the industrially funded system, the league has the financial clout to attract the big names.

They’ve already wooed Oscar from Chelsea and Carlos Tevez from Boca, and this looks like just the beginning.

With the silly money on offer, the Chinese league suddenly looks like an attractive and lucrative offer for substitute players like Oscar.

But can they get the really really big players?

300m offer for Ronaldo

Well, if they can’t, it won’t be for the want of trying.

Because now they’re going after the creme de la creme. As in, the current Ballon D’Or holder.

Speaking to Sky Sports at the Global Soccer Awards in Dubai last night, Jorge Mendes revealed that:

‘A 300m euro offer has come from China to Real Madrid, and 150m euro a season for Cristiano. But money isn’t everything, Real Madrid is the club of his life.’


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So true mate ...he is consistently inconsistent throughout his united career ..but what if he turns consistent ..he will get around 40 goals...ATM im waiting for that time as his age is 24/25 :wait: ... :|
on Rooney ,Jan 16th, ..and as they rest is history


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I don't believe anything this guy says basically gloating Ronald is still the best paid player in the world at Madrid he's hardly doing charity work


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Zenit St Petersburg midfielder Axel Witsel, 27, will choose a move to Chinese Super League side Shanghai SIPG over joining Juventus. (Gazzetta dello Sport - in Italian)

Chinese club Tianjin Quanjian are considering an £80m bid for Chelsea striker Diego Costa, 28. (Sun on Sunday)


Not surprised by Witsel by going to Zenit he's shown he's interested in following the money

As for Costa I think that's agents trying to use the interest to get a bumper deal at Chelsea as he looks happy there again


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The transfer window is swinging open and already, I fear, we might have peaked too soon with the news that one of our gelled, tanned, ultra-successful superstars – and I’m not talking Cristiano Ronaldo - is being linked with a big-money move to China on the back of being honoured with his industry’s equivalent of the Ballon d’Or.

Until now, with Mark Clattenburg modestly fending off speculation about a lucrative move to the Chinese Super League, I must confess I did not realise there was such a thing as referees taking advantage of the Bosman rule or being the subjects of transfer gossip.

Where it all ends is not clear. Will they have press conferences to announce their arrivals? Will they be “unveiled”? All that can really be said is that Clattenburg, sounding every bit like a man in demand, isn’t ruling it out, finds the speculation flattering and, just as Oscar, Carlos Tevez and all the rest have already made clear, would hate for anyone to think it might be about the money.

“If an opportunity came along I am contracted to the Premier League but I have to look at my long-term strategy of my career,” Clattenburg said. “There is no offer on the table but if they made an offer it would be under consideration.”

It sounded suspiciously like a come-and-get-me plea. And he should probably give Jorge Mendes a ring.


Can't sign the worlds best players or managers yet but could they get the worlds best ref?

More importantly would anyone actually care? Do the PL get a transfer fee? :laugh:


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Sbout tym they get fair crack at share...

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