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I saw Henry play a few times in his prime and he was pretty spectacular the speed he did things was unreal especially when he was linking with Bergkamp & Pires they could cut a team open before half the team realised they'd lost possession.

Not sure what he's like anymore I imagine he doesn't have much of that pace left in those old legs but you see the odd glimpse of the class.

I saw the end of a Red Bulls game the other day that's a pretty nice stadium they've got and with MLS growing year on year it might be the right time to get involved now before the entrance fees get out of hand. Not sure Soccer will ever be the number 1 sport in America purely because American's like to be number 1 and they are a long way away from being number 1 either domestically or internationally but there's no reason why MLS can't grow into a respectable league.


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Pele helped the revived New York Cosmos unveil their new kit and sponsorship deal with Emirates Airline amidst reports that former Spain international Marcos Senna is to join the club.

Pele, 72, featured for the Cosmos during their original run in the old North American Soccer League along with other ageing greats such as Franz Beckenbauer.

Though the side folded in 1985, they will return to the NASL – now the US’s second tier league beneath Major League Soccer – this summer with Pele as honorary president.

The deal with Emirates will see the airline company feature on the front of the famed green and white shirts produced by Nike, and also makes them a founding partner of the club in their reboot season.

"This is a big day for the future of the New York Cosmos," Pele said. "It's wonderful to be part of such a pre-eminent football family.

"New York has a rich tradition of sport, and Emirates proudly supports some of the world's top teams, including AC Milan, Hamburg, Arsenal, Olympiacos and Paris Saint-Germain, plus the recently announced shirt sponsorship of Real Madrid,” said Nabil Sultan, a vice-president at Emirates.

“Therefore, choosing to support the relaunch of the Cosmos back to this amazing city was an obvious choice.”

Cosmos begin their second life when they begin their campaign on August 3 against the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, and former Villarreal and Spain enforcer Senna may be with the club by then.

Widespead reports Stateside claim the 36-year-old Brazil-born midfielder, who was voted player of the tournament for Euro 2008 after helping Spain lift the trophy, will be unveiled as a Cosmos player over the coming days.


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I wonder if the MLS and the NASL will ever merge in some fashion and start a proper promotion/relagation system


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MLS bribe fans to stop "You Suck Asshole" chant

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16 July ~ Children are aware of the tactics used by authority figures to control or modify their behaviour. There's anger, punishment, disapproval or – a solution used by the more desperate – bribery. Yet fully grown MLS supporters have recently been subjected to all these approaches from their league and clubs. MLS commissioner Don Garber is cracking down hard on one of his long-term bugbears – the "You Suck Asshole" shout. And the clubs are trying to persuade their fans to stop the chant using a variety of methods.

Garber has long been fixated on getting rid of this strangely resilient tradition, shouted when the opposing goalkeeper takes a goal-kick. In the past he has described the chant as uncreative, ridiculous, vulgar and sophomoric. But now, with new TV deals already being negotiated for 2014, he really does mean business. While the efforts are league-wide, the biggest campaigns are being waged by Real Salt Lake and the New York Red Bulls.

Supporters' groups at both clubs face the naughty-step treatment, with sanctions threatened if YSA (as it is commonly known in MLS literature) isn't eradicated by the start of August. This includes the banning of smoke devices, drums and banners, as well as halting privileges such as parking permits and discounted tickets.

Real Salt Lake took the parental I'm-just-so-disappointed-in-you high ground. "We're trying to appeal to our fans' sense of class," Salt Lake communications vice-president Trey Fitz-Gerald told Sports Illustrated. "We think we should try to hold ourselves to a higher standard and not use 'YSA'." On the other hand, the Red Bulls have gone straight for bribery – or an incentive programme – offering each of the three supporters' groups $500 (£330) for every game without hearing that particular chant. The payments would be paid in $2,000 bundles, meaning that fans must be on best behaviour for four games in a row.

The Red Bulls have put their supporters' groups in a very difficult situation. Accepting money from the club in exchange for changed behaviour raises accusations of "selling-out" and questions over a group's independence and integrity. But YSA is widely seen as a dated chant that has long run its course, the sanctions are harsh and there's a lot of money on the table. The Empire Supporters Club is the oldest and largest group and they initially appeared receptive to the idea of the payments. Yet Tim Hall, one of the five Empire board members and a Red Bull Arena capo (who orchestrates the supporter section), told me that the group has yet to make a decision on the offer.

Hall, speaking as a fan, showed his frustration with the whole situation and the fuss over a chant that without sustained attention from MLS would have "died out ages ago". He notes that: "One of the questions that keeps popping up is ‘do we really want children hearing this?' Because, you know, kids aren't using words much worse than 'asshole' on the playground to entertain themselves, and they certainly don't hear worse on TV or in movies. That's a popular angle to take when people get offended, jump to the defence of hypothetical children."

As Hall continues, the chant could also provide a language education: "There are parents bringing their kids to Red Bull games who laugh hysterically when their kids participate in YSA. It's a teachable moment: it's OK to use that word here, in that moment, but not at home, not at school and not in front of Grandma."

During the Red Bulls' 4-0 win over Montreal on Saturday the chant was still clearly heard. It's unclear how this is all going to work out. As Hall said: "No one likes to be told what to do, especially when you're out to be entertained. If they offer money or other incentives, and you take them, you run the risk of looking like a sell-out. If they crack down and start throwing people out, they risk alienating people who don't care either way. There's no surefire way for them to go about this, which is why they haven't really tried any method until now."

Of course, one of the major reasons for the crackdown is because of how the MLS "product" will be seen on TV. It would be interesting to hear Garber's thoughts on the NBC network spending $250 million on Premier League rights, a league making huge progress in the US where bad language extends far beyond "asshole" levels. Ed Upright


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It's all over too, the USMNT game I watched included a modified Wu-Tang Clan lyric informing the other team the "U-S-A ain't nothin' to fu€k with"


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Do they have bad language in other chants at Anerican Sports or do fans not really chant at American Sports.

Can't think of many regular Utd chants that don't have any swearing in them


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Most of the chants at other American sporting events are lead by the team over the stadium speakers, so they are fairly benign, "here we go Yankees, here we go" that sorta thing. But that said you'd be hard pressed to go to any sporting event and not hear fans individually yelling obscenities at a player or team.


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Is this the equivalent of the British oooohh ahhh f**k sh1t ahhh stuff when goalies take their kicks?

If so it's already much more advertiser friendly, they should think themselves lucky! :lol:

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Major League Soccer is aiming to add four new teams to become a league of 24 by 2020.

Commissioner Don Garber, making one of his stately appearances on the ESPN half-time show at the MLS All-Star game, had promised some sort of announcement, but nobody quite expected it to be setting the timescale and odds for the next stage of MLS expansion. But there he was announcing that the league wanted to expand by four teams for the 2020 season — officially putting those already in the game and those toying with entering it, on notice that the chase was on.

No new team entered the league this year, after years of increasingly confident expansion that had followed the setback of contraction in 2002. The slowdown was due to the desire to close on a stadium and a franchise holder for a second New York team and a wealth of human and financial resources had been spent on that in the last couple of years, coupled with the Commissioner's statements that the 20th expansion team would be NY2, in whatever form or location that might take. Other cities kept making noise about expansion, insisting they were better prepared and more deserving than a second franchise in a media market where the existing team was struggling for attention. But MLS pressed ahead in the belief that a second New York team was key to their strategy.

The entry of Manchester City (and the Yankees) into the conversation allowed MLS to finally announce New York City FC as the second New York team earlier this summer - scheduled to enter the league in 2015. No matter that the stadium deal in Flushing, once seen as a prerequisite for a franchise to be awarded, would soon stall in the morass of New York politics, a "Mission Accomplished" banner of sorts could now be hung above the New York project and the talk could again turn to expansion.

But that conversation still felt a way away until the Commissioner's announcement. New York City FC will be the 20th MLS team and the league had indicated there may be a hiatus when it reached that symbolic number. Conversations with interested would-be owners would continue, it was assumed, but without a definitive target or timescale. Those conversations become more charged now.

So who's in the running? Well, there are a few territories currently underserved where a team would make sense, and where there is already some groundswell of support:

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The long time presumptive frontrunner has been Orlando City, the USL Pro side who at various stages in the last year or so have seemed tantalizingly close to closing the stadium deal that would make them a strong favorite for an MLS slot. Though as the New York City FC deal shows, the stadium being in place, once considered a non-negotiable cornerstone of any credible bid, is perhaps not such a definitive requirement as it once was. If Orlando could secure the approval in principle of MLS, the numbers might make a bit more sense to the State legislature which is where the most recent public/private stadium proposal foundered.

And then of course there's Miami and David Beckham, who has the right to purchase an MLS franchise at a reduced price, based on a clause in his initial contract with the league. Whether even the star power of Beckham would be enough to make a notoriously fickle sports market take a team to their hearts is another matter — it may take someone of his star presence to sustain interest even when the first flush of enthusiasm has gone. Commissioner Garber is prone to speak of the "ghost of the former NASL haunting the corridors of MLS". Never mind NASL, the ghost of MLS failures past still haunts Florida. Could Beckham succeed where Miami Fusion had failed? He's certainly looking into it, and has taken exploratory meetings in the city.

And then there's Atlanta, home of the Silverbacks, and perhaps most importantly a name that has cropped up more than once out of the mouth of the commissioner when discussing possible expansion teams, not least because it's the largest television market without an MLS franchise.

Further North, but connected to the stretch of America conspicuous for its lack of MLS teams, there's another possibility of putting a team in the Carolinas, perhaps even bringing up Carolina Railhawks to MLS.

The Midwest
It wouldn't take a lot to make another underserved area of the country grow more potential marketable rivalries, if a viable owner could be found in St Louis. Sporting Kansas City and Chicago Fire would have a new natural rival, and a town with a decent soccer past could have a solid soccer future. The City has come close before, even having a stadium agreed, but MLS were not convinced by the range of backers that the last serious contender Jeff Cooper had on hand and the partners decided against proceeding. Sometimes having a location that ticks a lot of boxes is not enough.

Elsewhere, Indianapolis is about to launch an NASL side whose founding fan-friendly principles may have them in a strong position sooner rather than later, though the involvement of MLS 1.0 fan-friendly exec Peter Wilt may hinder as much as help. And Andreas Apostolopoulos's Triple Group continue to make noises about a stadium in Detroit, either as part of the Pontiac Silverdome complex or a more city-based location. In the meantime the NPSL Detroit City fans continue to punch above their weight in terms of crowds, and could yet form the mainstay of a future bid, if that trend continues.

A little further West is the prospect of a tie in with the Minnesota Vikings, particularly in the wake of the Minnesota legislature approving a new NFL stadium with provision for an MLS franchise, last year. The stadium is scheduled to open in 2016.

The West
Here's where we're getting slightly into wild card territory. Sacramento has quietly gone about making itself a viable contender by founding a USL Pro team and identifying a suburb called Elk Grove as a possible home for a stadium. San Antonio, Texas is another possibility — the Scorpions NASL team has been a successful launch and they have a neat scaleable stadium that currently holds 8000, but can be expanded to 18,000. And again, senior MLS figures have been quoted as saying the league is looking seriously in Texas.

And then as the joker we have the beleaguered Chivas USA. Chivas is facing an ugly employment court case, and immediately after his expansion announcement on ESPN, the Commissioner had to endure a reasonably intense cross-examination about whether the club discriminated against non-Hispanic players and staff. Whenever the conversation comes up about how badly or indifferently certain franchises are run, Chivas is one of the teams that comes up frequently. At times recently there's been something of a suggestion that Chivas should be moved and rebranded, given how much they are struggling compared to their StubHub Center neighbors, the Galaxy. If that were to happen that could muddy the waters in any of the four new potential markets, depending on the parameters for such a move.

So take your pick of any four from that little lot, add in Ottawa or just speculate on the New York model of a second franchise. Sporting player Matt Besler was doing just that in the wake of the All-Stars' Roma defeat — upon being told of the expansion news he joked "Kansas City 2!". "Not gonna happen" growled his All-Star and club coach Peter Vermes beside him. Some cities aren't big enough for two — while some cities will have watched Roma play in the beautiful, modern stadium at Sporting Park in front of a packed and engaged crowd, heard the Commissioner's plans, and dared to believe that they might become one of four.


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Orlando should build a Stadium at Disney's World of Sport and grab all the tourists. Theres at least 50k beds in WDW (although IIRC its around 70k) alone, plus 100s of 1000s more in the area. Then theres Orlando and Tampa Bay down the road.

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Becks is most likely putting a team in Miami and since the MLS likes to try and geographically generate rivalries Orlando or Tampa could be a good shout. Tampa currently has a team in the NASL so they might have a better shot, and they have a soccer history the Rowdies were around for a long long time


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Clint Dempsey admits he was not expecting to leave Tottenham this summer when he reported back for pre-season.

The American international finalised a move back to his homeland earlier this month when Seattle Sounders signed him after terms were agreed with Major League Soccer and Tottenham.

Speaking on Sky Sports News he said: "I had two years left on my contract at Tottenham and going back there in pre-season, I thought I was going to be there but I guess it is just timing.

"The right situation came along and MLS and Seattle Sounders, they moved mountains to get me back and I wanted to come back whilst I could still do it, I wanted to come back and make an impact."

With David Beckham having left MLS, many are predicting Dempsey could have a similar impact on the league.

"I don't know what my effect will be, I am looking forward to getting back and playing more the South America style, having that creative freedom and getting on the ball," he said.

Dempsey was asked whether his former team-mate Gareth Bale would be following him out of White Hart Lane.

"He has been great for them and is a great player, and really helped our push for the top-four last season - but I don't really want to comment on that."


I heard somewhere that they paid £9m for him :laugh:


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Great piece about Micheal Bradley if you care to read it:
Click The Link...http://deadspin.com/americas-most-important-soccer-player-conquers-the-old-1113369327



Also what's so funny about 9m for Dempsey?


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Just think that price was high considering his age and the huge wages he'll be on in MLS haven't they tended to pick up DP's on a free transfer in the past?

Spurs picked him up for about £3m last summer and he's gone a year later after an OK season and they've picked up £9m for him I can't see a club in Europe putting that sort of valuation on him but maybe he is worth that to MLS because he's a star name in the USA.


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Didn't Spurs pay more like £6-7m for him? Either way you are correct that it is the largest transfer fee MLS has ever paid. And he's on the 4th highest contract in league history. But he's pretty high profile here in the states, I'd say he's worth all that and more to the league from a marketing standpoint.


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I thought Tottenham got him dirt cheap as he ran down his contract and basically went on strike.

In pure footballs terms the valuation seems high to me but I agree the rest of what he brings to MLS probably makes him worth that sort of money.

Out of interest are non soccer fans in America aware of who Clint Dempsey is?


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I would say yes for non soccer fans and no for people that are non sports fans in general if that makes sense. MLS and NBC and ESPN have been on a major "soccer" offensive the last few years so I'd imagine most sports fans have some knowledge


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Yeah I get what you're saying in England sports fans all know who Lebron James is but most non sports fans probably wouldn't have a clue.


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The former England captain, who quit playing at the end of last season, is in the "final round of negotiations with backers" for an MLS franchise according to the Daily Mail's respected sports business reporter Charles Sale.

Beckham played in the MLS with LA Galaxy and his contract included an option to create a new team with a 25 per cent discount, with the former midfielder speaking in the past about how appealing becoming a football club owner is to him.

Beckham visited potential stadiums in Miami in the summer and is hoping to announce progress before Christmas.

Co-investors will likely include Bolivia-born billionaire Marcelo Claure; the owner of the NFL’s Miami Dolphins Steve Ross; and Beckham's business partner Simon Fuller.

In the summer Beckham visited Sun Life stadium, home to the Dolphins, whose owner Ross recently set up a football division, and met with the Dolphins chief executive Mike Dee.

Sun Life holds around 75,000 fans and has hosted several international friendlies in recent years but may be considered overly large for an MLS team.

Together with British entrepreneur Fuller, whose management company XIX Entertainment, handles Beckham's business affairs, Beckham later visited a 20,000 stadium at Florida International University.

Claure, owner of Bolivian club Bolivar, is a member of the board of trustees of FIU and has previously promoted the idea of an MLS team playing at the venue.

The FIU stadium underwent major renovations in 2007 and is home to the University's American football team.

At the time Beckham told CBS4 News television: "I think bringing an MLS team here to South Florida would be... it's exciting.

"I think Miami fans are very passionate about their sports and very passionate about winning and of course, it would have to be success but it's definitely exciting,"

The city briefly had an MLS team, the Miami Fusion, who played in neighbouring Fort Lauderdale and joined the MLS in 1998 but were closed by the then struggling league after four seasons.

MLS has enjoyed a boost in popularity in recent seasons though and the league is looking to expend.

Earlier this summer Manchester City and the New York Yankees announced they had formed a new MLS team to play in New York City from 2015.

They will become the 20th team in MLS and will face a local rival in the New York Red Bulls who play in Harrison, New Jersey. The "franchise fee" for the City/Yankees was $100 million (£61.6 million).



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It'll be interesting to see what kind of team he puts together and who the manager will be. Maybe Becks will take the reigns?

Also wonder if his star name will be enough to help Miami's bid beat rival bids from Orlando and Atlanta? No idea who's behind the other bids but surely the MLS would go for Golden Balls' offer if he comes up with the cash, if for no other reason than the constant PR that it'd bring them.

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